This list seems somewhat inactive, which I find a bit surprising, but I am 
very interested in one particular aspect of security when I build Clojure 
apps.

Right now my interest is in building REST web services and web applications 
backed by a relational database with something like Angular or Backbone at 
the front-end. I'm therefore interested in applying best practices in 
securing web applications for the public internet.

I don't have a deep background in security, but as a seasoned Java 
developer I have a good idea of some of the security considerations for web 
applications, and I agree with another post here that OWASP is a very 
useful resource. My specific interests in security are mainly mitigations 
against:

1. SQL injection;
2. Cross-site scripting;
3. Request forgery.

When it comes to the many libraries available for Clojure I struggle to 
find good information on these topics, so I'm unsure what is my 
responsibility as an app developer and what is being provided by those 
libraries for me.

For example, based on Clojure tutorials I have built a Compojure web 
application that:

1. Accepts JSON from a client;
2. Inserts a database record based on the JSON (using the official JDBC 
wrappers).

This is implemented in the most simple way possible: the JSON map is 
basically passed directly to the function that inserts that map in the 
database. I don't even name database columns and I don't filter text to 
mitigate against attacks. 

In my equivalent Java web application, I'd know to white-list keys for my 
JSON unmarshalling, I'd name explicit columns in my database operations, 
and I'd run the submitted user text through filters to strip out any 
malicious scripts or whatever, or escape the text when reading data back.

I would have no confidence hosting this web application on the public 
internet in its current state.

Now, admittedly my Clojure experience is limited (at time of writing I have 
about three part-time days of experience!), so these things may be obvious 
to others here, but right now this is the sort of thing I simply don't know 
how to do with Clojure and the third party libraries I'm using.

By the way, I do use Friend already and I am finding it really useful.

On Friday, 14 December 2012 17:36:57 UTC, Chas Emerick wrote:
>
> Some recent discussions related to my development of Friend have prompted 
> me to create a new group: 
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/clojure-sec 
> "Dedicated to discussing security issues affecting those building 
> applications with Clojure and its variants." 
>
> I'm sure many of us are building applications that have security 
> considerations.  I think it would be helpful at this point if there were a 
> dedicated place for discussions around addressing those considerations; 
> thus, clojure-sec. 
>
> We'll see what people actually want to talk about, but I'd be happy if any 
> of these classes of topics become common: 
>
> * usage and design of particular security-related libraries and tools 
> * security-related tech available in the various host environments that we 
> can leverage from Clojure(Script/.CLR/-py/c/etc) 
> * Clojure-specific concerns (e.g. untrusted code evaluation / jailing) 
> * issues or weaknesses in particular Clojure implementations, libraries, 
> etc. 
> * discussion of more general-interest security topics that nevertheless 
> impinge upon our work in Clojure 
> * more, more, more 
>
> I'm looking forward to learning. 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> - Chas 
>
> -- 
> http://cemerick.com 
> [Clojure Programming from O'Reilly](http://www.clojurebook.com) 
>
>

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