Your check-concurrent2 is a much better way to use parallelism in your
program -- create a few threads, each of which does a lot of work.

I haven't analyzed the values you are computing in detail, but note that
your program still has lots of inter-thread 'communication' because of the
use of a common atom in your main-function.  If you can get the correct
final answer by having each thread calculate independent values, or
collections of values, and then somehow combining them together when they
are all finished with a bit of quick-running sequential code, that might
give you even better parallel speedup than check-concurrent2.

The use of asterisks at beginning and end of a symbol name is traditionally
used on Clojure (and Common Lisp, from whence this tradition came) if the
var is dynamically bound, meaning different threads typically do things
like (binding [*dynamic-var* value-to-use-in-my-thread] <code here>).
There is no need for that in your program, and leaving off the asterisks
(or "earmuffs") is common practice.

For the explanation of the 1-minute delay, see the end of the last example
on ClojureDocs for the future function:

    http://clojuredocs.org/clojure_core/clojure.core/future

Andy


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwester...@gmail.com>wrote:

> 2014-04-10 16:45 GMT+02:00 Andy Fingerhut <andy.finger...@gmail.com>:
>
> Forcing small bits of computation to be done in parallel using the tools
>> Clojure and the JVM have at hand, e.g. pmap, future, etc., which rely on
>> creating JVM Thread objects, tends to slow things down rather than speed
>> things up, because the extra overhead of creating threads and waiting for
>> them to finish is higher than the cost of sequentially doing the small bits
>> of computation.
>>
>> If you want to force parallelism in your example anyway, to compare the
>> most-likely-slower-performance against what you have now, you can try this:
>>
>> (let [val (Math/sqrt i)
>>        a1 (future (Math/pow val 2))
>>        a2 (future (* val val))
>>        diff (Math/abs (- @a1 @a2))]
>>
>
> The first form of concurrency was very bad indeed. I attached the script
> I made. (With the first form of concurrency disabled.) The sequential
> version takes between 1:52 and 1:56 with 18% CPU.
>
> The first form of concurrency took 2 hours and 45 minutes with 26% CPU.
> That is about 87 times as long, so very bad indeed. A future seems to be
> very expensive.
>
> The second form of concurrency takes around 31 seconds with 57% CPU. So
> about 3.7 times as fast. So that is a good improvement. The output is
> not complete the same, but that is not important in this case.
>
> By the way: is this the right way to write Clojure code? Especially: are
> the names max-diff and max-factor correct, or should the names be called
> different? For example: *max-fiff*.
>
> I call the script with:
>     date +%T ; clojure ~/Clojure/check-power.clj ; date +%T
>
> This gives:
>     00:52:10
>     00:52:11: Start sequential
>     00:52:11: Different for          838 (1.136868e-13, 1.356645e-16)
>     00:52:11: Different for         3352 (4.547474e-13, 1.356645e-16)
>     00:52:11: Different for         5343 (9.094947e-13, 1.702217e-16)
>     00:52:11: Different for         9470 (1.818989e-12, 1.920791e-16)
>     00:52:11: Different for        19922 (3.637979e-12, 1.826111e-16)
>     00:52:11: Different for        33757 (7.275958e-12, 2.155392e-16)
>     00:52:11: Different for        65830 (1.455192e-11, 2.210529e-16)
>     00:52:11: Different for       132323 (2.910383e-11, 2.199454e-16)
>     00:52:11: Different for       263320 (5.820766e-11, 2.210529e-16)
>     00:52:12: Different for       524523 (1.164153e-10, 2.219451e-16)
>     00:52:12: Different for      1052879 (2.328306e-10, 2.211371e-16)
>     00:52:12: Different for      2097255 (4.656613e-10, 2.220337e-16)
>     00:52:12: Different for      4194573 (9.313226e-10, 2.220304e-16)
>     00:52:12: Different for      8389020 (1.862645e-09, 2.220337e-16)
>     00:52:13: Different for     16777781 (3.725290e-09, 2.220371e-16)
>     00:52:16: Different for     33554486 (7.450581e-09, 2.220442e-16)
>     00:52:19: Different for     67110098 (1.490116e-08, 2.220405e-16)
>     00:52:27: Different for    134217944 (2.980232e-08, 2.220442e-16)
>     00:52:42: Different for    268436271 (5.960464e-08, 2.220439e-16)
>     00:53:13: Different for    536871776 (1.192093e-07, 2.220442e-16)
>     00:54:06: Stop, max-factor: 2.220442e-16
>
>
>     00:54:06: Start concurrent2
>     00:54:06: Different for          838 (1.136868e-13, 1.356645e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for         5343 (9.094947e-13, 1.702217e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for         3674 (4.547474e-13, 1.237745e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for        10925 (1.818989e-12, 1.664979e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for        21372 (3.637979e-12, 1.702217e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for        20571 (3.637979e-12, 1.768499e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for        19922 (3.637979e-12, 1.826111e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for        33757 (7.275958e-12, 2.155392e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for        70012 (1.455192e-11, 2.078489e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for       135028 (2.910383e-11, 2.155392e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for       263320 (5.820766e-11, 2.210529e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for       529292 (1.164153e-10, 2.199454e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for      1053280 (2.328306e-10, 2.210529e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for      2098092 (4.656613e-10, 2.219451e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for      4211516 (9.313226e-10, 2.211371e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for      4194573 (9.313226e-10, 2.220304e-16)
>     00:54:06: Different for      8389473 (1.862645e-09, 2.220217e-16)
>     00:54:07: Different for     16777781 (3.725290e-09, 2.220371e-16)
>     00:54:07: Different for     33555125 (7.450581e-09, 2.220400e-16)
>     00:54:08: Different for     67115849 (1.490116e-08, 2.220215e-16)
>     00:54:10: Different for    134218985 (2.980232e-08, 2.220425e-16)
>     00:54:14: Different for    268441753 (5.960464e-08, 2.220394e-16)
>     00:54:23: Different for    536872413 (1.192093e-07, 2.220440e-16)
>     00:54:37: Stop, max-factor: 2.220440e-16
>     00:55:37
>
> One thing I do not understand, between finishing (check-concurrent2) and
> getting back to the shell there is one minute. When calling only
> (check-sequential) the script returns immediately back to the shell. Why
> is this?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Cecil Westerhof 
> <cldwester...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I have the following in my code:
>>>        (let [val (Math/sqrt i)
>>>             diff (Math/abs (- (Math/pow val 2) (* val val)))]
>>>
>>> I expect that calculating the difference is the most expensive part of
>>> my code. I understood that Clojure is very good in parallellisation. How
>>> would I let (Math/pow val 2) and (* val val) be calculated in parallel?
>>>
>>
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