True, but I think that's why he argues for a strict language which controls
side effects via monads, as Haskell does.


On 9 July 2014 07:18, Magnus Therning <mag...@therning.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 08:39:30PM +0200, Colin Fleming wrote:
> > I searched for this as well, and found this:
> > http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~gmh/appsem-slides/peytonjones.ppt
> >
> > "Purity is more important than, and quite independent of, laziness"
> >
> > and
> >
> > "The next ML will be pure, with effects only via monads.  The next
> Haskell
> > will be strict, but still pure."
>
> In the same presentation he also says that laziness has forced Haskell
> to stay pure, and that
>
> "Every call-by-value language has given into the siren call of side
> effects."
>
> So even if they are independent on the technical level one could say
> that they are dependent on a design/social level.
>
> /M
>
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