One nuance to consider re: self-sequable datastructures is that on
eval clojure will assume the first element is invocable, see

https://github.com/ztellman/clj-tuple/issues/5

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Karsten Schmidt <i...@toxi.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks, Kovas! I looked at it a few months ago (and now just forked
> it), but Zach also seems to have created a separate deftype just to
> support this conj-ing business (and that alone is 180 LOC...) That all
> seems to be a huge effort though and am wondering about simpler
> alternatives and/or some better detailed documentation about these
> matters and inter-relationships. IMHO this part of Clojure seems to be
> very cryptic to me... Just would like to know if this particular
> combination of vector-style conj behavior & being self-seqable is
> fundamentally incompatible or if I'm missing something here? Of
> course, an easy solution would be to just do this:
>
> (deftype Foo [a b]
> (cons [this c] (seq [a b c])))
>
> ..but that would mean any further conj-ing will happen at the head.
> cons as defined in IPersistentCollection has IPersistentCollection as
> return type (and hence would be satisfied by PersistentVector), but
> it's being overridden in ISeq and so wins...
>
> Makes me wonder why conj has not been kept internally separate from
> cons. Wouldn't this have avoided this potential for such a conflict?
>
>
> On 3 September 2014 18:33, kovas boguta <kovas.bog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Not a direct answer but you might want to look at
>>
>> https://github.com/ztellman/clj-tuple/blob/master/src/clj_tuple.clj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Karsten Schmidt <i...@toxi.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've defined a custom vector type and implemented various clj/cljs
>>> protocols, but now ended up hitting my head against some weird behaviour
>>> with conj (or rather cons, internally). The type
>>> defines a 2-element vector-like construct and my cons
>>> implementation would simply return a standard
>>> clojure.lang.PersistentVector with the given arg added like this:
>>>
>>> (deftype Foo [a b]
>>>   clojure.lang.IPersistentCollection
>>>   clojure.lang.Indexed
>>>   clojure.lang.Sequential
>>>   clojure.lang.ISeq
>>>   clojure.lang.Seqable
>>>   clojure.lang.Reversible
>>>   ;; ... elided seq fn impls...
>>>   (cons [_ c] [a b c]))
>>>
>>> However, attempting a conj results in an exception I don't understand:
>>>
>>> (conj (Foo. 1 2) 3)
>>> java.lang.ClassCastException: clojure.lang.PersistentVector cannot be
>>> cast to clojure.lang.ISeq
>>> at user.Foo.cons (foo.clj:13)
>>> user.Foo.cons (foo.clj:-1)
>>> clojure.lang.RT.conj (RT.java:562)
>>> clojure.core$conj.invoke (core.clj:83)
>>> ...
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell, clojure.core/conj simply calls RT.conj(coll, x),
>>> which just calls
>>> coll.cons(x):
>>>
>>> https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/master/src/jvm/clojure/lang/RT.java#L604
>>>
>>> static public IPersistentCollection conj(IPersistentCollection coll, Object 
>>> x){
>>>   if(coll == null)
>>>     return new PersistentList(x);
>>>   return coll.cons(x);
>>> }
>>>
>>> So where in that call path is there an attempt or requirement to cast
>>> to an ISeq?
>>>
>>> I've been comparing notes (as far as this possible) with the default
>>> PersistenVector implementation, but not sure where I'm going wrong
>>> here...
>>>
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