I'm glad my talk got someone working on things! I'm going to see if that 
library would be a better match for our integration tests than test.check 
alone. 

--Ashton

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> On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Carlo Zancanaro <carlozancan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Jan!
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 06:37:06AM -0800, Jan Stępień wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing! I see that generative testing of statful computations 
>> is a popular topic in the Clojure world these days;
> 
> Yeah, it certainly seems to be that way. I was re-invigorated to work on
> stateful-check after watching a talk from the conj about generative
> integration tests.
> 
>> I think we've started working on our libraries nearly the same day :)
>> 
>> https://github.com/jstepien/states
> 
> I've actually seen your library since writing stateful-check. When I
> experimented with it, though, I found its shrinking to be a bit lacking.
> With stateful-check I've actually implemented my own shrinking of
> commands to try to improve the shrinking results (it essentially tries
> to prune irrelevant commands before trying to shrink individual
> commands).
> 
> I was quite interested in your approach of using a single function per
> specification property (precondition/postcondition/next-state). I
> thought that would be a bit constricting when it comes to actually
> writing test cases, though, so I've opted instead to have each of those
> defined per-command. How have you found that to be in practice?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Carlo
> 
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