>>  I think you are coming across a bit strong

That's probably true. At the end of the day I believe that tests should be
written in the same language with the same semantics as the code they are
testing. Midje does not recommend this. It is a multi-thousand line
compiler that transforms a DSL into Clojure, introducing new semantics, and
syntax. Simplicity always wins in my book. I'll take more verbose tests any
day over a custom compiler wrapped in a macro.

Timothy

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Sam Ritchie <sritchi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed, Timothy - obviously the mental model gets more tangled when state
> mocking comes into play, but the fact is, sometimes you don't have the
> option (right away) of rewriting the code you're testing.
>
> Midje has been great for the Cascalog community:
> http://www.samritchie.io/testing-cascalog-with-midje/
> http://www.samritchie.io/cascalog-testing-2-0/
>
> The state mocking is just one piece of Midje. A bunch of its other
> features, such as its collection checkers and chatty checkers, are
> excellent.
>
> Colin Yates wrote:
>
> I have thousands of lines of tests written using Midje and it was the
> second one I turned to when I started using Clojure full-time a couple of
> years ago. I think it would be fairer to say that Midje is powerful enough
> to hang yourself, but that doesn't make that power wrong. This is the good
> old power/not power dilema and caution should dfefinitely be used by
> newbies using Midje, particularly established OO developers to ensure they
> don't mis-use Midje's tools as a bridge to stay in the OO paradigm.
>
>
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