Yeah, Adobe Flex can do that, too, with all the same caveats.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Timothy Baldridge <tbaldri...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Before coming to Clojure I did 2 years of work on WPF/Silverlight apps,
> and let me say what those platforms offer blows the web stuff out of the
> water. Yes it's not cross-platform, but the ability to describe a layout
> with data is unparalleled in the web world. I could sit down, and have a UI
> to a CRUD app in half a day. No CSS, no DOM elements to force into a layout
> I wanted, etc. Ask anyone who's worked with WPF and they'll tell you "yep
> it's based on mutability, but writing a UI is really easy".
>
> JavaFX comes close to this, but I'd like to use pure data to interact with
> it. I did some work on that in the past, and came up with something that
> was pretty usable, but I think a React approach could take it even further.
> Anyways, the results of my work allowed you to create JavaFX interfaces
> like this:
>
>
> {:type :border-pane :center {:type :group
> :children [{:type :circle
> :radius (planet-sizes size)
> :centerY (/ (planet-sizes size) 2)
> :centerX 0}]} :bottom {:type :stack-pane
> :maxHeight 110 :prefHeight
> 110 :children [{:type :pie-chart
> :data (map
> (fn [{percent :planet.biome/percentage
> type :planet.biome/type}]
> (slide/build-item {:type :pie-chart-data
> :name
> (str type)
> :value percent}))
> (:planet/biomes planet))}]}}
>
> Notice how you don't have to muck with all the junk found in the browser, you
> just describe an panel, say what you want to put where (center, bottom, etc).
> and the layout engine takes care of the rest. And this entire thing is GPU
> accelerated so drawing of the GUI is pretty fast. The web side of things has
> a place, but it's also mired in decades of legacy, that's stuff you don't
> find in modern UI toolkits like JavaFX, QT and WPF.
>
>
> Timothy
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Gary Trakhman <gary.trakh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue Jan 13 2015 at 2:05:03 PM Christopher Small <metasoar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On the other hand, while the web app route may feel a bit overwhelming,
>>> it really is worth learning. Once you program web, you can deliver to any
>>> platform. It's ubiquitous. And once you get the hang of it, the paradigm
>>> isn't really all that challenging. But up to you obviously.
>>>
>>>
>> This rationale is the basis for my last 1.5 years of extra-work effort.
>> Good luck :-).
>>
>> Coming from clojure, React really made investing in the web seem sane and
>> worthwhile by offering composable abstraction. I still think it's a good
>> idea to learn web tech, but it was kind of a frustrating slog.
>>
>> Another really helpful piece of 'tech' that fits with clojure
>> philosophies is http://suitcss.github.io/
>> https://github.com/suitcss/suit/blob/master/doc/design-principles.md
>>
>> I think that plus React are great starting points.
>>
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