Thanks Shantanu. I am using component but not graph. Although based on
their schema library and om-tools I expect it to be pretty nifty :).

On 25 February 2015 at 14:32, Shantanu Kumar <kumar.shant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Having tried few other ways earlier, I now prefer the `first` approach you
> described. Protocols decouple the contract and the implementation very well,
> and can be reified for various profiles (unit tests, scenario tests,
> integration etc.) For constructing the graph I have found Prismatic graph
> with reifying-functions to be very apt -- you may still need to borrow the
> lifecycle idea from Stuart Sierra's component (maybe define IStoppable) for
> things that need shutdown, such as custom thread-pools.
>
> Shantanu
>
>
> On Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:52:28 UTC+5:30, Colin Yates wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I ran into a bit of a brick wall when thinking about how to register to
>> and dispatch to multiple micro-services and it made me realise the
>> underlying tension came from not having peace about a fundamental design
>> decision; how do you access your collaborators. Note: I am specifically
>> talking about 'providers of functionality' as oppose to state. I think
>> everybody agrees that passing state around is a "good thing" (e.g. *db* is
>> so 90s, (defn my-thing-which-needs-a-db [db] ...) is where it is at).
>>
>> One option is to receive instances of a service (probably some
>> implementation of a defprotocol):
>>
>> (den my-service [service-1 service-2 payload]
>>  (some-method service-1)
>>  (some-method service-2))
>>
>> The other is to directly reach into the collaborator's namespace:
>>
>> (den my-service [payload]
>>  (service-1-ns/some-function)
>>  (service-2-ns/some-function))
>>
>> (maybe some config is passed into my-service which the other services use.
>>
>> The first approach has a much smaller coupling and makes it much easier to
>> reason about. If there is coupling then it is on the protocol of the
>> collaborator. It is therefore trivial to unit-test as you can stub out the
>> collaborators without redef. It also has echoes of OO services, which might
>> be just fine.
>>
>> The second approach means you don't end up passing collaborators deep down
>> hierarchy graphs (which I haven't run into actually - Clojure tends to have
>> a much 'flatter' graph then Java). It does mean testing etc. requires
>> redefs.
>>
>> My inclination is to go for the first as it seems simpler, but I still
>> have an allergic reaction to using protocols like this (because of the OO
>> trap).
>>
>> This clearly isn't new ground, but I could find surprisingly little blogs
>> and discussion about this. It is also something that only really becomes a
>> problem in the larger scale as well.
>>
>> What do you all do?
>
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