I am sorry, I should have explained this sooner. When I do this: 

(.getBytes document-as-string "UTF-8")

The quote marks are always escaped. When I do this: 

        document-as-byte-array (bytes (byte-array (map (comp byte int) 
document-as-string)))

The quote marks are sometimes escaped, but most of the time they are not. 

I need to avoid having those quote marks escaped. I am not clear what is 
causing the escaping. 




On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 12:01:51 PM UTC-4, Francis Avila wrote:
>
> your document-as-byte-array is wrong--it only handles ascii, and very 
> inefficiently too.
>
> Just say (.getBytes document-as-string "UTF-8") to get a utf-8 encoding of 
> the string as a byte array.
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:41 AM, <gingers...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > As for the escaped quotes, you may be using pr or prn to print, or 
>> maybe you are 
>> > using pr-str to produce the string representation. I can't be sure. 
>>
>> At the moment I create the string like this: 
>>
>>         document-as-string (str "{\"transaction-id\" : \"" transaction-id 
>> "\", \"message\" : \"" message "\"}")
>>         document-as-byte-array (bytes (byte-array (map (comp byte int) 
>> document-as-string)))
>>
>> The crazy thing is that this sometimes works, but other times the quote 
>> marks appear in Redis as escaped quote marks. As near as I can tell, the 
>> important factor is the length of the string. A short string is likely to 
>> have its quote marks escaped. A long string does not have its quote marks 
>> escaped. 
>>
>> My co-worker is working on the Java app. I am working on the Clojure app. 
>> We can both adjust out apps freely, just so long as we can get data to and 
>> from each other, in a manner that allows us to eventually cast the data to 
>> and from JSON. 
>>
>> Any suggestions are welcome. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 8:58:53 PM UTC-4, Francis Avila wrote:
>>>
>>> Who is saving these strings, and who is reading them? Do you have 
>>> complete control over both apps, or does one of them need to be aligned 
>>> with the other?
>>>
>>> If the Java app is the baseline, you need to know the exact details of 
>>> the format of the data it saves. Just knowing "it's JSON" is not enough, 
>>> because there may be other data types (e.g. dates) that don't have native 
>>> JSON representations. (The go-to JSON de/encoder for clojure is cheshire: 
>>> https://github.com/dakrone/cheshire )
>>>
>>> I took a quick look at Jedis and the easy, default way of using it is 
>>> with strings. It will encode strings to UTF-8 before sending to Redis and 
>>> decode from UTF-8 on read. You can set raw byte arrays too (which will not 
>>> be altered in any way before sending), but it's not clear to me how it can 
>>> read out raw byte arrays. (I'm sure there's a way, but it's not immediately 
>>> obvious.)
>>>
>>> As for the escaped quotes, you may be using pr or prn to print, or maybe 
>>> you are using pr-str to produce the string representation. I can't be sure. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:31:27 PM UTC-5, gingers...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And I have another stupid question. Using the above code, I am 
>>>> sometimes getting strings in Redis that have escaped quotation marks, like 
>>>> this:
>>>>
>>>> " \"transaction-id\" : \" 1ec47c2e-21ee-427c-841c-80a0f89f55d7 \"  
>>>> \"debrief\" :  \" Susan Hilly at Citi called to get a quotation for 
>>>> discounted weekly car rental for approximately 3 cars per week, or 150 
>>>> rentals annually. \"  "
>>>>
>>>> Why is that happening? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:38:20 PM UTC-4, gingers...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Francis Avila, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your response. The Java app is using Jedis and the 
>>>>> Clojure app is using Carmine. I'm wondering if you can suggest what you 
>>>>> think would be the easiest way to allow these 2 apps to understand each 
>>>>> other's strings?
>>>>>
>>>>> You were correct about how unsafe the above code was. I tested it for 
>>>>> less than 15 minutes and ran into the fact that a \n newline made a mess 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> everything. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:15:35 PM UTC-4, Francis Avila wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are running into Carmine's automatic nippy serialization. 
>>>>>> https://github.com/ptaoussanis/carmine#serialization
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Redis only stores byte arrays (what it calls "strings"). Carmine uses 
>>>>>> the nippy library (the meaning of "NPY" in your byte stream) to 
>>>>>> represent 
>>>>>> rich types compactly as bytes. https://github.com/ptaoussanis/nippy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you give Carmine a byte array to store, it will store it directly 
>>>>>> without nippy-encoding it. E.g. (.getBytes "{}" "UTF-8")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW your document-as-string example is extremely unsafe: how will you 
>>>>>> reliably read this message out again? e.g. what if the 'debrief' string 
>>>>>> contains a single quote? Use a proper serialization format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the key is to have both your Clojure and Java app store *bytes* in 
>>>>>> Redis using the same serialization. You can store anything you want 
>>>>>> (nippy, 
>>>>>> utf-8-encoded json, fressian, bson, utf-8 xml, utf-16 java strings, 
>>>>>> whatever) as long as it's bytes and it's read and written the same way 
>>>>>> in 
>>>>>> all your apps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Redis library your Java app is using may have its own automatic 
>>>>>> de/serialization, too. You need to find out what it's doing and either 
>>>>>> work 
>>>>>> with this or turn it off, just like with Carmine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nippy unfortunately does not have a Java API out of the box:  
>>>>>> https://github.com/ptaoussanis/nippy/issues/66
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 3:35:49 PM UTC-5, gingers...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is a Clojure question or a Java question. I 
>>>>>>> don't know Java, so I could use whatever help folks can offer. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "primitive string" here means what I can write when I am at the 
>>>>>>> terminal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have 2 apps, one in Clojure, one in Java. They talk to each other 
>>>>>>> via Redis. I know the Java app can read stuff out of Redis, using our 
>>>>>>> "transaction-id", if I use the terminal and open up "redis-clj" and 
>>>>>>> write a 
>>>>>>> string directly from the terminal. But I have this Clojure code, which 
>>>>>>> depends on Peter Taoussanis's Carmine library:
>>>>>>> (defn worker [document]
>>>>>>>   {:pre [(string? (:transaction-id document))]}
>>>>>>>   (let [transaction-id  (:transaction-id document)
>>>>>>>         document-as-string (str "{'transaction-id' : '" 
>>>>>>> transaction-id "', 'debrief' : '" (:debrief document) "'}" )
>>>>>>>         redis-connection {:pool {} :spec {:host "127.0.0.1" :port 
>>>>>>> 6379 }}]
>>>>>>>     (timbre/log :trace " message we will send to NLP  " 
>>>>>>> document-as-string)
>>>>>>>     (carmine/wcar redis-connection (carmine/set transaction-id 
>>>>>>> document))
>>>>>>>     (loop [document-in-redis (carmine/wcar redis-connection 
>>>>>>> (carmine/get transaction-id))]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       (if-not (.contains (first document-in-redis) "processed")
>>>>>>>         (recur (carmine/wcar redis-connection (carmine/get 
>>>>>>> transaction-id)))
>>>>>>>         (do
>>>>>>>           (carmine/wcar redis-connection (carmine/del 
>>>>>>> transaction-id))
>>>>>>>           document-in-redis)))))
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> This line in particular, I have tried doing this several ways: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         document-as-string (str "{'transaction-id' : '" 
>>>>>>> transaction-id "', 'debrief' : '" (:debrief document) "'}" )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Redis, I expect to see: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {'transaction-id' : '42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358', 
>>>>>>> 'debrief' : 'Smeek Hallie of Withers, Smeg, Harrington and Norvig 
>>>>>>> responded 
>>>>>>> to our proposal and said his company is read to move forward. The rate 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> $400 per ton of shredded paper was acceptable to them, and they shred 
>>>>>>> about 
>>>>>>> 2 tons of documents every month. $96,000 in potential revenue annually. 
>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>> will meet with him tomorrow and we will sign the contract.'}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if I then launch redis-cli, I see: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 127.0.0.1:6379> keys *
>>>>>>> 1) "42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 127.0.0.1:6379> get "42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358"
>>>>>>> "\x00>NPY\b\x00\x00\x01\xfc\xf1\xfe\x1b\x00\x00\x00\nj\nip-addressi\x0e165.254.84.238j\x05tokeni$46b87d64-cff3-4b8b-895c-e089ac59544dj\x0bapi-versioni\x02v1j\x0etransaction-idi$42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358j\adebrief\r\x00\x00\x01YSmeek
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hallie of Withers, Smeg, Harrington and Norvig responded to our 
>>>>>>> proposal 
>>>>>>> and said his company is rea-\x00\xf1\x06move forward. The 
>>>>>>> raty\x00\xf0\x0c$400 per ton of shredded pa\x16\x00\xf1\bwas acceptable 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> them,q\x00Bthey0\x00\x80 about 2E\x00\x10sF\x00\xf1Ldocuments every 
>>>>>>> month. 
>>>>>>> $96,000 in potential revenue annually. I will meet with him 
>>>>>>> tomorrow{\x00\"we#\x00@sign\x92\x00\xa0 contract."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what all of those extra characters are. The Java app is 
>>>>>>> not picking this item up, so I assume the Java app is not seeing this 
>>>>>>> as a 
>>>>>>> string. I expected this to look the same as if I had written this at 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> terminal: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {'transaction-id' : '42e574e7-3b80-424a-b9ff-01072f1e0358', 
>>>>>>> 'debrief' : 'Smeek Hallie of Withers, Smeg, Harrington and Norvig 
>>>>>>> responded 
>>>>>>> to our proposal and said his company is read to move forward. The rate 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> $400 per ton of shredded paper was acceptable to them, and they shred 
>>>>>>> about 
>>>>>>> 2 tons of documents every month. $96,000 in potential revenue annually. 
>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>> will meet with him tomorrow and we will sign the contract.'}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I assume it is easy to get a string into a format that can be 
>>>>>>> understood by both a Clojure app and a Java app. I don't care what 
>>>>>>> format 
>>>>>>> that is, but it needs to be consistent. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone make suggestions about what I can do to make sure the 
>>>>>>> Clojure app and the Java app both write to Redis using a format that 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> other will understand? In particular, both apps need to see the 
>>>>>>> "'transaction-id". 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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