> On Mar 11, 2016, at 9:43 PM, Paul Gowder <paul.gow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2. The other big beginner barrier I feel is the tooling. In lots of ways, > leiningen is amazing (particularly the automatic grabbing of dependencies), > but the forced project structure is really painful. It feels like a massive > barrier to not just be able to throw up some code and have it run without > having to set up a whole directory structure and all the rest. (It would be > nice in particular to be able to use gorilla-REPL without having a project > for it---maybe with lein-try somehow??) Been thinking about trying boot to > make this simpler, but since every library seems to be documented in terms of > leiningen, that means just means learning two tooling systems instead of just > one.
Is "lein new app foo" that complicated? I'm using just leiningen + Gorilla REPL for a class I'm teaching it now, and this doesn't seem to be a barrier. In fact I'm using a modified version of Gorilla REPL that can open any .clj file, and we've set things up so that "lein new gorilla-app foo" creates the Gorilla-enabled project. I'm very happy with the setup, and I haven't seen the student confusion that I've had with every other tooling setup. FYI here's a little auxiliary document that I give students to help get them going: http://faculty.hampshire.edu/lspector/temp/Secrets-of-Gorilla-REPL.pdf One feature that needs to be added to the modified version of Gorilla REPL to make this useful more generally is "Save without markup," since currently any file that you open and then save will get markup added, which you won't want in many cases. -Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.