Would there be interest in a ticket in this? Seems simple enough if (as 
above) putting the message under the :pre key is acceptable?


On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 3:25:16 AM UTC+12, frye wrote:
>
> I do think a simple String error message is all that the user of the 
> function should provide. From there, An AssertionError can throw up 
> something along the lines of what you said - Expected… , Found… , Message. 
> That would give enough information for reporting at least in a test 
> framework. To get more precise information, like you said, that 
> AssertionError could also throw up class/file information, etc. that a 
> debugger could use. I would guard against designing these things to 
> accomodate a context outside of it's execution scope. In the ideal 
> functional world, the input and output are wholly localized. Any 
> Error/Exception thrown can be consumed or chained to give very precise 
> failure reasoning.  
>
>
> As for how that would fit into the entire exception chain, that's still 
> being thought (see here 
> <http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Error+Handling>). There are 
> already a few approaches, and I think this (see here 
> <http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Error+Handling+Comparisons>) is 
> the context of how the core team is approaching this problem. 
>
>
> Cheers 
> Tim 
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Shantanu Kumar <kumar.s...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> As I am the culprit of having introduced it with a naive example, I'd
>> better admit it may not be very useful in practical scenarios across a
>> wide variety of use cases. For example, when there is an assertion
>> error with message "`m` should be a map" 14 levels down the stack, I'd
>> really wish it said "`m` -- Expected: map, Found: vector [:foo :bar]"
>> so that I can debug it quickly.
>>
>> Pre-conditions and Post-conditions are a valuable debugging aid, and
>> to enable that we need very precise information. Unfortunately passing
>> a string error message cannot encapsulate enough error context. A more
>> complex example can be where the correctness of input must be
>> determined collectively (in association with other args) -- in those
>> cases one can only fall back on comparing input values and raise
>> IllegalArgumentException accordingly.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shantanu
>>
>> On Jul 11, 10:40 pm, Timothy Washington <twash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>>
>
>

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