On Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:42:52 PM UTC+11, James MacAulay wrote: > On Saturday, 29 November 2014 08:44:42 UTC-5, Nikita Dudnik wrote: > > I don't think FRP and virtual-dom based frameworks are mutually exclusive > > approaches to building front-ends. React (or any stand-alone implementation > > of a virtual-dom) is perfectly combinable with FRP. Just keep your app's > > state in one place, update it using your FR logic, use v-dom to rerender > > everything when state changes. > > I've been building a port of Elm's FRP system to Clojure/ClojureScript, and > this is the approach I've been taking so far: > > https://github.com/jamesmacaulay/zelkova/blob/d683225ff26c4af13d5d94d801b6dfc48b801bb8/examples/drag-and-drop/src/drag_and_drop/core.cljs#L102-L169 > > I think there's a lot of potential with approaches like this. > > > But talking about ClojureScript there is no need for FRP because core.async > > is much easier to learn and reason about. > > I think it's probably true that core.async is easier to learn at first, for > most people. But once you're comfortable with both of them, I think FRP > systems *can be* a lot easier to reason about. I consider core.async to be a > good low-level system for co-ordinating events, but everything you do with it > requires poking channels with "the mutating stick," with all the complexity > that entails. > > FRP has its own conceptual hurdles, but I find the fact that FRP signal > values are immutable is a huge win (immutable in the sense that composing > signals together doesn't change how they behave). That being said, FRP is > much newer territory than CSP, so if you're building applications with it > top-to-bottom then you're likely to run into a number of problems whose > solutions are still open research topics :P
I would claim that Reagent is FRP via its use of the ratom. Once you understand how it works the penny drops. Reagent effectively has its own version of "lift" (look for "reaction" and "run!" which are not promoted by the standard docs). As a result, I would claim that Reagent has more in common with Elm and Hoplon/javelin, than OM. -- Mike -- Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ClojureScript" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojurescript+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to clojurescript@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript.
