I said I would help with this but someone else took the lead. What's the 411 haha??? On Apr 4, 2014 12:34 AM, "Sandro "red" Mathys" <r...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Vitaly Kuznetsov <vi...@redhat.com> wrote: > > "Sandro \"red\" Mathys" <r...@fedoraproject.org> writes: > > > >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Vitaly Kuznetsov <vi...@redhat.com> > wrote: > >>>> So we have the RedHatQE tests, Taskotron and CentOS's CI. Can anyone > >>>> of the people involved (at the Red Hat side, I guess) well me why we > >>>> have 3 systems for 1 task? > >>> > >>> (my personal opinion) I think we rather have plenty of tasks, not > >>> one. Afaict (after 5 min. of reading Taskotron's development plan > >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/taskotron_development_plan) > >>> Taskotron is designed to replace AutoQA in the first place. > >>> RHEL's Cloud Image Validation was developed several years ago when the > >>> following task was on the table: we have many AWS regions, many images, > >>> different architectures, we need to try different hardware types and > >>> AWS-specific features (e.g. attach EBS on the fly or test AWS-specific > >>> content delivery) and finally we need to aggregate the result. Existing > >>> test infrastructure was built around Beaker which is not that well > >>> suited for the job and creating a separate tool was considered a > >>> reasonable trade-off. > >> > >> Well, "one" task as in "do cloud image QA". > >> > >> Thanks, for sharing that insights, really helpful to help my > >> understanding. So, do you currently test EC2 only? (Not saying that's > >> necessarily bad / too little). > > > > Now it is EC2-only but Google's ComputeEngine was on the horizon. > > > >> > >> Now, we do have the RHQE stuff in place and it's already used for > >> testing Fedora images...that's good. Is that fully automated? Or to > >> what extend? > > > > You run the tool with the data (AMI IDs, region, arch) and get the > > result in a meanwhile. It can be fully-automated once we have this data > > announced via fedmsg or in any other automated way (now I just read > > mailing list and if there are any images announced by Dennis I run the > > tool). > > > >> > >>>> When I took ownership of this "external > >>>> need" (for the Fedora cloud product) I was under the impression we > >>>> only just (are going to) have Taskotron and everyone knows it's THE > >>>> way to go. > >>> > >>> I personally love collaboration. It would be awesome if we could avoid > >>> spreading resources on '3 systems for 1 task'. I definitely want to > know > >>> more about Taskotron and its movement towards cloud image testing. > >> > >> That's why I was a bit confused to find there's actually 3 systems. > >> Collaboration is certainly great, but that's not how it's done so > >> let's try to improve on this. > >> > >> So, would you recommend to keep using your tools or rather go with > >> Taskotron? Or do we do some things in one and others in the other? Or > >> do we try to fully implement your tests in Taskotron and drop doing > >> the tests with your tools? > >> > > > > Well, it depends on what's our future plan. IMHO once we have images > > announced via fedmsg we can have all basic things covered by the existing > > tool (and I'm definitely in for integration and support process for the > > tool) and it won't take us long to set everything up. With regards to > > Taskotron I want to know more on how this 'cloud integration' is planned > > as (if I'm not mistaken) there's no code written yet. If merging here > > seems reasonable then I'm in. I'll try reaching out to Tim & others on > > fedora-qa-devel list. > > So, what's the status here? Tim's responses to this thread show no > cloud integration code has been written yet and he's open to have > valid integrated in Taskotron, particularly if helping hands do most > of the work so he can keep focusing on other open tasks. Could you > work on that, Vitaly? > > >> Also, Karanbir, what's your (i.e. CentOS's) story? You say you already > >> have a CI system running but shared little other information. What CI > >> system? Did you already implement image tests? What kind of > >> collaboration would you suggest here? > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct >
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