On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Amanda Carter <acar...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hey folks, creating a separate thread for this longer term discussion. We're 
> getting ready to release our first 2 week atomic update on Tuesday and Dusty 
> Mabe has raised 2 potential release blockers that were not part of automated 
> testing. It's good that he caught them, but it's also a bit of a stroke of 
> luck. Since there is no official QE for this release, who should own 
> verifying that there are no release blocking bugs prior to every automated 
> release and escalating if there are? If no one raises the blocker, we'll have 
> no way to block the release.

Other than adding "making sure that anything found manually gets tests
added so it doesn't reoccur", I don't have much to add to this except
for saying that I also recognize the need.

Paul Frields tells me that no one on his team (Fedora Infrastructure
Engineering) is in the right position to do this overall. That team --
along with Fedora Release Engineering -- has been working on making
sure that the release artifacts get constructed, but aren't experts in
what goes _in_ them. (It's nice that we're at the point where the
problems are on the inside, I guess!)

I think it needs to be someone who is deeply connected to the teams
working on Atomic development, but who is also given this is a core
responsibility and guaranteed the time for making sure things work in
Fedora specifically.

I hope that over time we can grow community around this, but that's in
a chicken and egg situation. (I can elaborate on that if it's not
obvious to everyone...)



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Matthew Miller • Fedora Project Leader
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