On Tue, 2022-08-09 at 11:09 -0400, Chris Murphy wrote:
> cc: cloud@, server@ fpo
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When troubleshooting early boot issues with a console, e.g. virsh console, or 
> the virt-manager console, or even a server's remote management console 
> providing a kind of virtual serial console... the boot scroll is completely 
> wiped. This is a new behavior in the last, I'm not sure, 6-12 months? 
> Everything before about 3 seconds is cleared as if the console reset command 
> was used, as in it wipes my local scrollback. 
> 
> I captured this with the script command, and when I cat this 76K file, it 
> even wipes the local console again. So there is some kind of control 
> character that's ordering my local console to do this. The file itself 
> contains the full kernel messages. I just can't cat it. I have to open it in 
> a text editor that ignores this embedded console reset command.
> 
> With the help of @glb, we discovered that this is almost certainly Plymouth. 
> When I boot with parameter plymouth.enable=0 the problem doesn't happen. And 
> hence the higher level question if we really even need Plymouth in Server or 
> Cloud editions?
> 
> I suppose ideally we'd track down the problem and fix plymouth, so that 
> existing installations get fixed. Whereas if we remove plymouth, we have to 
> ponder whether and how to remove plymouth from existing installations. Unless 
> we flat out aren't using it at all.
> 
> Any ideas? 
> 
> Plymouth is in the @core group in fedora-comps, so pretty much everything 
> gets it.
> https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/main/f/comps-f37.xml.in#_635

We actually took it out briefly not so long ago, but put it back mostly
because of this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1940163
AFAIK that bug is still around, at least nobody has claimed it's fixed.

See https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/642 and
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933378 for more context.
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