Apache, Apache CloudStack, and CloudStack are all trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation. (Or they will be once CloudStack graduates.) Therefor, we have to be careful about using them. And third parties have to be careful about using them. Third parties should not cause any confusion about what is and what isn't a part of the Apache CloudStack project.
You can read more our policy here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ The point I want to make, however, is that it's a little more than just some virtual paths in a Git repos here. Some ways in which the current CloudStack account on GitHub are problematic: - CloudStack is used as the account name, in both the URL and the UI - The account advertises itself as the "CloudStack Project" - There is a repository itself called "CloudStack" - There is a link to http://cloudstack.org - The word "CloudStack" is frequently used in repository names - There isn't a single mention of Apache anywhere on the page Now, admittedly, all of these things exist because this account used to be the home of CloudStack. It is not as if someone has come along after the fact, and is now using our name irresponsibly. But they still present an issue, because there is significant scope for confusion here. I am assuming there are already plans in place to retire the original repository as part of the move to Apache. This should, of course, include a rebranding, and a reworking of this GitHub account. Do you know what the timeline is for that? On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Donal Lafferty <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Noah, > > You raise an interesting point about trademarks. Are virtual paths in > github repos considered a mark of authenticity? If we go by mere name > matching, I see a possibility . However, Apache itself establishes a > different mark of authenticity by placing 'apache' at the root of their > virtual path. AFAIK, UK courts expect the average consumer to be able to > grasp these subtleties. I expect this is because they don't like > impediments to commerce. Also, they'll have to take a narrow view of > trademark to avoid overlapping claims from github itself. > > WRT emails for all GIT pulls, wouldn't broadcasting pull requests clutter > the dev mailing list? > > DL > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Noah Slater [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 29 September 2012 15:27 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Github integration > > > > The CloudStack account on Github needs to be cleaned up then. Perhaps > > rename it so that it is clear the account is operated by Citrix. At the > moment, > > it looks like a canonical source for Apache CloudStack. Obviously, this > isn't > > okay. "CloudStack" is (or will be) a trademark of the ASF, and needs to > be > > used appropriately. > > > > Additionally, the README.md in the CloudStack repository should probably > > be updated to outline a pull request workflow for GitHub users. I presume > > that pull requests on GitHub send a mail to the mailing list? If not, I > can help > > to get that set up. > > > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Donal Lafferty > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > ASF repo: > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack.git > > > ASF mirror: http://github.com/apache/incubator-cloudstack > > > > > > Citrix repo: http://github.com/CloudStack (pre ASF and forks for > > > customer > > > support) > > > > > > > > > The wiki and Apache CMS sites should reference ASF repo. First > > > priority was to move information to the Apache wiki, so not all pages > > > may yet be updated. > > > > > > DL > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Noah Slater [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: 29 September 2012 10:18 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: Github integration > > > > > > > > Just following up on this. > > > > > > > > Could someone explain the difference between: > > > > > > > > - http://github.com/CloudStack > > > > - http://github.com/apache/incubator-cloudstack > > > > - > > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cloudstack.git > > > > > > > > Do we really have three repositories? > > > > > > > > Are they all writable? > > > > > > > > Is any of this documented anywhere? > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > What's the deal with Github and CloudStack? > > > > > > > > > > I notice things like this: > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/CloudStack/hudsonbuild/pull/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems that there is write activity, PRs, etc, going on over there. > > > > > > > > > > Is this stuff mirrored back to the ASF repos, or is it completely > > > separate? > > > > > > > > > > Very curious! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > NS > -- NS
