Thank you Dave.

I'll give it a try.

Regards
Ilya


On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:32 PM, "David Nalley" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Musayev, Ilya <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In single datacenter/zone i have many pods and many clusters to belong to 
>> specific business units that are segregated on multiple levels ranging from 
>> network to storage restrictions.
>> 
>> For example I have 3 independent QA envs, 3  perf envs, 2 DEV, 2 LAB and 2 
>> prod env Each env has it's own network, set of hypervisors and storage.
>> 
>> If I follow simplified AWS like logic of creating 1 zone per datacenter, 
>> multiple pods and clusters within - I loose the ability of being granular as 
>> to where my instance should live.
>> 
>> My env is an example of typical Corp environment with many segregated envs 
>> for various business units.
>> 
>> Creating 11+ zones and matching zone to cluster is also doable but - but i 
>> think it's not how CS was designed to be used. Instead, we would like to 
>> have 1 Zone per major business unit or even datacenter and have some other 
>> allocators do VM allocation.
>> 
>> Hence my question on best way of achieving this.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Ilya
>> 
>> On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:12 PM, "David Nalley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Musayev, Ilya <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I need more granular ability to deploy on cluster level, as deploying on 
>>>> the ZONE level is a bit too general in a complex environment like mine.
>>>> 
>>>> My logic would be as follows for now:
>>>> 
>>>> listClusters - find the cluster id I need
>>>> listHost - used with clusterid to get the list of the hosts and get hostid
>>>> deployVirtualMachine - deploy a VM and define hostid to make sure VM is 
>>>> deployed on the desired cluster.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This is certainly doable - but as you can see - there are multiple steps I 
>>>> need to do in order to deploy on cluster level.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a simpler approach to this?
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone used allocators and what is their purpose - a usage example of 
>>>> allocators would be great.
>>>> 
>>>> As always, any feedback is appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I understand what you are wanting to do, but not why?
>>> What advantage are you trying to achieve?
>>> 
>>> --David
>>> 
>> 
> 
> If it were me I'd use a combination of domains (zones allocated to
> domains) and tags. (tags the hosts - and have corresponding service
> offerings for those tags - and then control which accounts/domains see
> what service offerings.) I.e. QA folks would never see a service
> offering for production, and thus couldn't get a machine deployed on
> production hardware. In this scenario you would define all of the
> hosts in your production cluster with a tag that matches a production
> service offering.
> 
> Of course if you can define your allocation logic - an allocator
> would like be better long term solution.
> 

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