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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1147:
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The current state of these tools is horrible. So if we intend to keep them, 
they have to be rewritten anyways.
                
> cloud-setup-* should be removed
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>
>                 Key: CLOUDSTACK-1147
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1147
>             Project: CloudStack
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>      Security Level: Public(Anyone can view this level - this is the 
> default.) 
>          Components: Install and Setup
>    Affects Versions: 4.0.0
>            Reporter: Wido den Hollander
>             Fix For: 4.2.0
>
>
> The tools like cloud-setup-databases, cloud-setup-management and 
> cloud-setup-agent seem to come from the vmops/cloud.com time where CloudStack 
> used to be a black box appliance.
> Now more and more people start using CloudStack I'm seeing all kinds of 
> criticism on these tools:
> - They change files without telling the admin
> - They punch wholes through firewalls
> Those are two things which make sysadmins cry, especially if they want to 
> manage their systems with Puppet or Chef.
> The steps for setting up an Agent are actually not that big and most of them 
> are actually already documented.
> When a host is added through the GUI we shouldn't run cloud-setup-agent, but 
> we should just check if the host is ready to be added and bail out if not. 
> (And tell why)
> The same goes for the management server and databases.
> The databases is just a matter of importing the correct SQL files into the 
> databases and populating db.properties with the correct credentials.
> Setting up the management server is also just a matter of creating the 
> correct configuration files, firewalling ports and setting sudo permissions.
> We should tell system administrators what it is that he/she has to configure, 
> not just do things without telling.
> Documentation is key here I think.

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