Bueno y para completarla, acá está el Smalltalk Express que funciona en
Windows http://www.andreadrian.de/smalltalk/ (dice que en Linux funciona con
Wine) y que viene con el fuente del WindowBuilder que pesa 300 KB no 20 KB.
No deja de ser increíble por eso.

Salud,
Guillermo.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Guillermo Schwarz <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Se me olvidó mencionar la fuente:
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/google-buys-instantiations-gets-eclipse-java-and-ajax-expertise/2027
>
> No encontré los fuentes el WindowBuilder para ST/V, pero debo reconocer que
> era más que genial, era inspirador.
>
> Saludos,
> Guillermo.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Guillermo Schwarz <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Instantiations es dueña de VA Smalltalk (VA = Visual Age, hace unos 15
>> años VA era de IBM) y es la creadora de WindowBuilder, una interfaz para
>> crear GUIs en Smalltalk de manera drag and drop y cuyo fuente está en
>> Smalltalk y pesa algo así como 20 Kb.
>>
>> Tutoriall de WindowBuilder para Smalltalk/V: www.math.rsu.ru/*smalltalk*
>> /StExpress/WbCh1GettingStarted.pdf Hace que Visual Basic se vea
>> complicado.
>>
>> Desde el punto de vista de la innovación, les sacan un peso de encima,
>> dejando que Instantiationse concentre en lo que sabe hacer. Desde el punto
>> de vista de la capacidad para generar ingresos, claramente el mercado Java
>> es más profundo que el de Smalltalk. Si Google comercializa el producto o lo
>> regala da más o menos lo mismo, se puede reimplementar en Java. Si nadie lo
>> ha hecho es de flojera.
>>
>> Lo único que lamento es que probablemente haya claúsulas en el contrato
>> que impidan que Instantiations se vuelva a meter en Java por un tiempo, de
>> modo que puede innovar mucho, pero no podrá capitalizar esa innovación por
>> un buen tiempo.
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Guillermo.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> ah todo esto...¿como es? ¿se sacaron de encima java y quieren seguir con
>>> smalltalk? ¿o no les queda alternativa?
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Esteban
>>>
>>> El 05/08/2010, a las 9:40a.m., GallegO escribió:
>>>
>>> Hola:
>>>
>>> Algunos que han bajado algo de Instantiations habrán recibido el mismo
>>> mail. Si es así pido disculpas por distraerlo nuevamente. Hoy es el
>>> Conference Call para Argentina por si alguien esta interesado en participar,
>>> si no entendí mal a la 17 hs de Buenos Aires.
>>>
>>>
>>> Saludos
>>>  GallegO
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Instantiations <[email protected]>
>>> Date: 2010/8/4
>>> Subject: Instantiations Java Business Acquired by Google
>>> To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>   [image: InstantiationsLogo_small]
>>>
>>> August 4, 2010
>>>
>>> Dear Jose Sebastian,
>>>
>>>          I have exciting news to share about important developments here
>>> at Instantiations. Instantiations’ Java business has been acquired by
>>> Google! In brief, we have entered into an agreement with Google in which
>>> they have purchased our highly regarded Java products, technology, and
>>> business. *Our VA Smalltalk business, products, personnel…and
>>> commitment…continue independent and uninterrupted*, except that now the
>>> new Instantiations (yes, we kept the name) will focus exclusively on
>>> Smalltalk!
>>>
>>>           This may be the most significant news our VA Smalltalk™
>>> community has experienced since Instantiations and IBM joined forces in
>>> 2005--a relationship that remains strong and unchanged as we move forward.
>>>
>>>           In the short run you will see little change in our Smalltalk
>>> activities. The same people will be in place doing the same good work; our
>>> offices in Raleigh and Portland will continue to function at full capacity;
>>> support and product development will proceed without interruption, and we
>>> are looking forward to our upcoming release of VA Smalltalk 8.0.3. We will
>>> continue to support the community by hosting and sponsoring events like our
>>> recent VA Smalltalk Forum Europe, Camp Smalltalk in London, ESUG and
>>> Smalltalk Solutions 2011.
>>>
>>>           Longer term our new financial resources will allow us to
>>> expand our Smalltalk staff and capability. We are committed to the continued
>>> technical evolution of the VA Smalltalk product line and to expanding its
>>> market and business success.
>>>
>>>           I will continue as President and CEO of the new
>>> Smalltalk-focused Instantiations. Founder Eric Clayberg will join Google,
>>> but will also continue as a Director/Board Member, technical advisor and
>>> major shareholder of Instantiations. John O’Keefe will assume an even
>>> stronger role guiding the technical development and advancement of VAST.
>>> Chuck Shawan will continue working with customers as our VP of Sales.
>>> Everyone on the technical team in Raleigh will stay in their current roles.
>>>
>>>           We will host two phone briefings to talk about the news and to
>>> give you and everyone who attends a chance to ask questions. The calls are
>>> scheduled to encourage worldwide participation (you may attend either
>>> conference regardless of your location). Immediately below is the schedule
>>> and far below is the dial-in info:
>>>
>>> *Conference Schedules:*
>>>
>>> North/South American Conference
>>> Date/Time: *August 5, 2010* at 1:00 PM PT, 4:00 PM ET, 5:00 PM Buenos
>>> Aires, 8:00 PM GMT
>>>
>>> European Conference
>>> Date/Time: *August 6, 2010* at 1:00 PM GMT, 2:00 PM London, 3:00 PM
>>> Berlin, 6:00 AM PT, 9:00 AM ET, 10:00 AM Buenos Aires
>>>
>>>          John O' Keefe and I will both be attending ESUG in Barcelona
>>> this September. In addition to being a Platinum Sponsor, Instantiations will
>>> host a reception (Monday night) and we hope you can join us there to
>>> celebrate the continued success of Instantiations and VA Smalltalk.
>>>
>>>           All of us here appreciate your confidence in Instantiations
>>> and VA Smalltalk. We look forward to continuing and strengthening our
>>> partnership with you and your organization as we move into an exciting
>>> future together.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Mike Taylor]
>>>
>>> Mike Taylor
>>> President/CEO
>>> Phone: +1 503 598 4911
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Phone Conference Participant Dialing Instructions: *
>>>
>>> Conference Code for all callers: 935895#
>>>
>>> Select a toll-free dial-in number for your country:
>>>
>>> United States: 1.800.766.1337
>>>
>>> ITFS - Argentina: 0800-666-0299
>>> ITFS - Brazil: 0-800-891-7073
>>> ITFS - Chile: 123 0020 9164
>>> ITFS - Colombia: 01800-518-0926
>>> ITFS - Denmark: 808 89 328
>>> ITFS - France: 0800 917 564
>>> ITFS - Germany: 0800 182 68 84
>>> ITFS - Greece: 00-800-16122-056750
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>>> ITFS - Spain: 900-94-7666
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>>> ITFS - Taiwan: 0080-11-27037
>>> United Kingdom Freephone: 0808 101 0913
>>> ITFS - Venezuela: 0-800-100-8409
>>>
>>> If your country does not appear above, call:
>>> Direct Dial Number: 1.404.920.6210
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> Saludos cordiales,
>>
>> Guillermo Schwarz
>> Sun Certified Enterprise Architect
>>
>
>
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