Honestly, I'm surprised if you don't think the file system is cluttered.
Have you taken a look in /etc or /usr/bin lately?

As far as the other questions go, I wasn't talking JUST about the file system; I was talking about the development process and open source projects as a whole.

The file system is just one aspect of the evolution of Linux. I was just indicating that I personally thought that was one area that could be worked on. I was also trying to explain that I felt that before "hiding" the file system it should be cleaned up.

The file system is anything but perfect in its current state. I'm not suggesting throwing everything in the root of /. I don't think anyone suggested that. Frankly though I know your looking for an argument for the sake of an argument if you're going to sit there and tell me that the file system couldn't or doesn't need to be cleaned up, or "de-cluttered" as I put it before. Don't be silly, I'm not suggesting anything overly radical, but the file system really does need work.

As far as how it would be decluttered... Well for starters config files under /etc should follow a more standard format and be combined where possible for like services. I shouldn't have to go under /etc/X11, for example, and find a million config files just to make one little change to XWindows. I get annoyed having to sit there waiting for grep to look through every single file, just to find the file you need to edit. At least if like services used a single config file you would know for sure what settings are in what file. Often between distributions they create their own special config files to do various things. I see this as adding to clutter and confusion. With a standard file for like services, distributions (i hope) would be more inclined to use these files rather than invent their own config files. This, in my mind, would be a major step toward de-cluttering the Linux file system.

Here is a day-to-day benifit. I have to sit there for close to a half an hour on an older machine waiting for a bloody directory listing to finnish(try doing this in /usr/bin). I think it is very evident that something is wrong with the file system when that is the case. The day that isn't the case, yes I would see that as a real day-to-day benifit.


From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Should the unix fs be hidden from desktop users?
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:54:42 -0700

I agree with him.

We should make only a / mountpoint, and ever file should be located under
it.  Subdirectories should be disallowed.  That's about as clutter free as
possible.

:)

-1 Troll, I know...  Sorry, Couldn't resist.

Kev.


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