On Friday 22 April 2005 05:24, Cory Syvenky wrote: > > you could, but then you'd miss out on the purpose of Tenor which is not > > a search system but a contextual linkage engine (upon which one can > > build a "search engine"). > > Frankly, end users don't care. Unfortunately, they'll just see that Apple > did it first, then (likely) open source desktops did it next, then MS > botched it miserably last.
what i was trying to communicat is that it won't do the exact same things as Spotlight. it will appear in different forms doing different things from Spotlight and therefore will be distinguishable. > > um, not saying they aren't trying, but for what exactly? > > What I meant was, from an desktop innovation perspective. One thing that > pops into mind with Gnome 2.10 is the lack of a trash icon, who needs > another icon on their desktop? i thought this showed up in MacOS X first. > I see the light in > the thinking, "we'll gain more users if it sorta functions like Windows". that's not particularly the line of reasoning, it's a lot more subtle than that > > a groupware client that supports more than one groupware server out of > > the box, and each at the same level. > > Not desktop innovation. Application innovation, yes. wtf is the difference? > > .. i'm sure if i thought about it more i could come up with more. > > I'm sure you could too. But I'm sure we could also think of too many scary > resemblances to Windows (or other desktops) too. and again, this is true of every desktop in the mainstream. i don't see why this to be unexpected or even considered bad. > > you can't innovate beyond the state of the art until you're capable of > > the state of the art. > > Who is asking you too? You have the creativity, UI design skills, tools > and certainly have heard enough end-user gripes to concoct some dreamy > innovations. i'm not sure if you understand what it takes to "concoct dreamy innovations". first off, it's pretty stupid to go and make a beautiful widget set if you don't even have a web browser or word processor now isn't it? because then you'd have some cool to look at that is thoroughly useless. you can't use it yourself, and you won't have any users. additionally, you need to have the basic tools to put desktop concepts together. these just didn't exist a few years ago. now we're seeing most of the necessary tools (e.g. X technologies such as COMPOSITE) arrive, though some still need work. without COMPOSITE (and a few other important X bits) that are not innovations but rather get us to the point of the state of the art, we simply could not even catch up let alone innovate beyond the competition. this isn't about creativity or UI design skills. it's about first building a desktop that you can use day-to-day and the tools to go further. there is only so much manpower to be had, and despite it appearing like a really nice idea to "just innovate the crap out of the other guys" that doesn't map to reality. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43
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