Please don't take this the wrong way. When we talk about sponsorship it generally does not go much further than that. I guess if we analyze it there are 3 stages after the identification of the idea:
the initial idea identifying who to contact idenfifying the person in charge the actual contact Generally we stop at the first point. If we are serious about doing this, we need to start gathering the who to contact, who makes the decisions and centralize that. The most difficult step for many is the actual contact and asking for money or support. Some work needs to be done there so that it is professional and that the sponsor sees exactly what they get in return. Money is never free - there is always a benefit to the donor whether it be tangible or intangible. Let's not drop the ball on this idea - if someone can do the next two steps, I'll personally make sure the last one gets done. Regards, Kin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Altman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 11:01:32 AM (GMT-0800) America/Tijuana Subject: Re: [clug-talk] clug-talk Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5, supporting Installfest It's a great idea to have t-shirts and food especially if you are charging a fee to get in...it might also be a good idea to look around at some companies to see if there is enough sponsorship interest to put together some kind of gift back...gift certificates, free stuff, discount coupons etc Today's Topics: 1. gkrellm (Shawn) 2. Re: December CUUG meeting (Dave Bourassa) 3. Might be OT: Scrybe Online Organizer (Cameron) 4. Re: December CUUG meeting (Kin Wong) 5. InstallFest - changing the face of CLUG (long post) (Kin Wong) 6. Re: InstallFest - changing the face of CLUG (long post) (Richard Carter) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:33:39 -0700 From: Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [clug-talk] gkrellm To: CLUG General <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I mentioned this gkrellm tool at tonights meeting. (or is that last night now?) Here's where you can get more detail: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html This is a system monitor that sits on your desktop. It is configurable to show more or less information and/or statistics. There are even plugins to check if you have mail, use it as a music player, and more. You can also theme it if you'd like. I personally like the "invisible" theme so that the graphs "float" over my background. I typically run this from a console, or via the RUN dialog (alt-f2 on kde). Then I just don't close the program. At that point, it's always on my desktop. I also configure gkrellm to not show in the task bar. So now it's just part of my desktop. But it's very handy - when things are getting a little sluggish, a quick glance tells me it's due to high drive activity, or CPU, or memory. It's also handy to figure out how badly the application I just started is affecting my resources. Theming is easy. Download the team you want (it's in a tar.gz file), decompress it and move the resulting directory into your ~/.gkrellm/themes directory. Now you can pick that theme from the dialog (right click on gkrellm - it'll either take you straight to the configuration for the thing you right-clicked on (i.e. Disk), or give you a context menu. From the context menu you can go to configuration, then pick themes. gkrellm is a mature application, so most distros have it in their repository. For *buntu, a simple "apt-get install gkrellm" does the trick. Shawn ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:57:19 -0700 From: Dave Bourassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] December CUUG meeting To: CLUG General <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kin Wong wrote: > Here is a message from our friends at CUUG. The have moved their meeting this month to avoid the Christmas festivities. > > "Dear Members and Friends, > > The CUUG December general meeting will be December 11, the 2nd Tuesday > of the month. > > In the Spirit of the season, we invite all interested persons to attend as our guests (for free). > > Best Wishes for a Happy Holiday, > > Christopher Aziz > CUUG President > > December General Meeting" > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying Additionally, the presentation will be given using a $400 ASUS Eee PC. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:05:57 -0700 From: Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [clug-talk] Might be OT: Scrybe Online Organizer To: CLUG <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Came across this and thought I would share: "Scrybe? is a groundbreaking online organizer that caters to today's lifestyle in a cohesive and intuitive way. It looks cool but it is still in beta and the only way anyone can get in now would be to receive and invite from someone. Anyone have an invites they can share? I would like to see if this will work for a work project I am involved in. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:05:54 -0700 (MST) From: Kin Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] December CUUG meeting To: CLUG General <[email protected]>, clug-tech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 My apologies, I inadvertently cutout the details of the meeting for CUUG. " December General Meeting Moore's Said It Backwards: Why Microsoft is Doomed Speaker: Roy Brander The usual statement of Moore's Law implies that the price paid for technology always remains the same while the payback expands exponentially. At a slower rate, however - about a halving per decade - the amount of the typical "useful" purchase has been going down. It is now reaching the low hundreds - the same classic "inflection point" where appliances gain massive market share. In this realm, expensive software is an untenable business model. The presentation will be given using a $400 ASUS Eee PC. Roy Brander, P.Eng. is the Sr. Infrastructure Engineer for Water Resources, The City of Calgary. He also has a degree in computer science and began programming on punch cards in 1971. He has owned a VIC-20, C64, Atari 1040ST, and a forgettable series of i386 boxes, the last eight years running Linux. He used to rescue old 486 machines to become OpenBSD firewalls, but now rescues cats. Please note that this meeting takes place on the /2^nd / Tuesday of the month, rather than the usual 4^th Tuesday. W.R. Castell Central Library 616 Macleod Trail S.E. Basement meeting room 5:30 PM, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 /(2^nd Tuesday)/" ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:07:36 -0700 (MST) From: Kin Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [clug-talk] InstallFest - changing the face of CLUG (long post) To: CLUG General <[email protected]>, clug-tech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Had a brief discussion at last nights meeting on the purpose of CLUG, getting more membership, get people more active, getting more people out to the meetings, Installfest and COSSFEST. Background COSSFEST is a huge undertaking which can zap you of energy for a couple of months. It has always been technically successful but we have always lacked both the time and avenue to promote the event. The intro track has always been almost an after thought. (For a nube, enough to get started but not functional.) InstallFest is not as a big undertaking but the attendance can vary from a few knowledgeable faces to a healthy group of Linux explorers. The outcome is a gamble. (For a nube, not enough to even to get started.) General meetings - we have had dwindling numbers for years now and we face losing the gurus in the group if there isn't anything for them. We won't get new blood unless there is something for the nubes. Analysis Draw yourself a pyramid with the nubes at the base and the gurus at the top. That means for some of us mere mortals, we are somewhere in the middle. If you are attending the regular meetings then you are probably interested in bring out people like Mad Dog, Linus, Aaron, etc. We can only do so if the base of the pyramid is health. By focusing on what we can provide to the general public, we will be able to more for the balance of the pyramid. Proposal Change the face of InstallFest so that there is more structure. Instead of just dropping by and having the techies sit around all day - have 5*1.5 hr talks. Why use Linux and Open Source, installation of Linux, how to print and play multimedia (including codecs), etc. The whole idea is that the techs are only up for a couple of hours at a time, the subject matter is more or less standardize so that we are saying roughly the same thing, the topics are repetitive so that you don't need a huge amount of time for preparation and the whole thing is transferable - someone with peripheral knowledge would still be able to give the presentation in a pinch. Charge a price of $15-$20 - not to make money but to have commitment from people who what to attend (nothing worse than to throw a party and have no one come - also a waste of good talent). Provide lunch and a t-shirt (good advertising for the group). Minimize on administration - other than getting the ball rolling and determining content, there is little funding required, no large hall to book, just pick a date and roll with it. We can start small - maybe 4 days in a year and build up to once a month. Devry would be an ideal location with free parking. A single room would not be a logistical issue. Topics can be changed out to make things interesting. Promotion is the bane of pulling off an event, especially when you don't have endless amounts of money. But you don't have to have a lot of money, just energy. For the size of CLUG, if members are willing to spend even 5-10 minutes of their normal schedule to post a poster in their office, school, library it would go a long ways. But we need to know way in advance what we want to do and when. We also have to have mini-events that feed into InstallFest and InstallFest to COSSFEST. Tag along on not-for profits that have great coverage like the Calgary Public Library and do free one hour presentations on topics like Gimp, Open Office, etc. 1 in 10 will come to a InstallFest. 2 in 10 will come to our regular meetings. 4 in 10 will come out to COSSFEST. Another promotional opportunity is the Chamber of Commerce breakfast meetings for small business or the not for profit societies of which many are in a single building downtown. This has been brewing in my mind for a while now and since COSSFEST is over and I had a bit of time to think, I know this is doable. Election platform - not really, I am considering not continuing on the exec (it isn't allot of hard work, but personally it takes too much time and not delivering the satisfaction of what I like to see in the community). Am I committed to Linux and Open Source -- yes, but as usual looking for the bang for the buck whether it is money or time. I am sincerely hoping that people will jump on this thread and help flush this out. Is it the absolutely the solution - no, anything can be improved upon. I neither think that I am the smartest in the group nor the dumbest, but like many have the heart in the right place but still failing to find an avenue to turn it into something better. For all of you that are looking at what's in it for me - absolutely nothing if that is the first thought and everything if it is successful. Informing begets adopters, adopters begets evangelists, evangelists begets decision makers -- all of which creates a better environment for both the community, the environment and CLUG. Like I have said to some of you before, it doesn't change things in my working lifetime, it will be a start in the right direction for my kids. Regards, Kin ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:34:37 -0500 From: "Richard Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] InstallFest - changing the face of CLUG (long post) To: "CLUG General" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Kin, It sounds good to me. I would come to try to get the record as the nube with the best attendence and the dumbest questions. On the logistic side, a provided lunch sounds attractive but might be hard to get permission for and to supply. Maybe free coffee & donuts would be eaaier to do. Robin On Dec 6, 2007 1:07 PM, Kin Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Had a brief discussion at last nights meeting on the purpose of CLUG, > getting more membership, get people more active, getting more people out to > the meetings, Installfest and COSSFEST. > > Background > COSSFEST is a huge undertaking which can zap you of energy for a couple of > months. It has always been technically successful but we have always lacked > both the time and avenue to promote the event. The intro track has always > been almost an after thought. (For a nube, enough to get started but not > functional.) > > InstallFest is not as a big undertaking but the attendance can vary from a > few knowledgeable faces to a healthy group of Linux explorers. The outcome > is a gamble. (For a nube, not enough to even to get started.) > > General meetings - we have had dwindling numbers for years now and we face > losing the gurus in the group if there isn't anything for them. We won't > get new blood unless there is something for the nubes. > > Analysis > Draw yourself a pyramid with the nubes at the base and the gurus at the > top. That means for some of us mere mortals, we are somewhere in the > middle. If you are attending the regular meetings then you are probably > interested in bring out people like Mad Dog, Linus, Aaron, etc. We can only > do so if the base of the pyramid is health. By focusing on what we can > provide to the general public, we will be able to more for the balance of > the pyramid. > > Proposal > Change the face of InstallFest so that there is more structure. Instead > of just dropping by and having the techies sit around all day - have 5*1.5hr talks. Why use Linux and Open Source, installation of Linux, how to > print and play multimedia (including codecs), etc. The whole idea is that > the techs are only up for a couple of hours at a time, the subject matter is > more or less standardize so that we are saying roughly the same thing, the > topics are repetitive so that you don't need a huge amount of time for > preparation and the whole thing is transferable - someone with peripheral > knowledge would still be able to give the presentation in a pinch. > > Charge a price of $15-$20 - not to make money but to have commitment from > people who what to attend (nothing worse than to throw a party and have no > one come - also a waste of good talent). Provide lunch and a t-shirt (good > advertising for the group). > > Minimize on administration - other than getting the ball rolling and > determining content, there is little funding required, no large hall to > book, just pick a date and roll with it. We can start small - maybe 4 days > in a year and build up to once a month. Devry would be an ideal location > with free parking. A single room would not be a logistical issue. Topics > can be changed out to make things interesting. > > Promotion is the bane of pulling off an event, especially when you don't > have endless amounts of money. But you don't have to have a lot of money, > just energy. For the size of CLUG, if members are willing to spend even > 5-10 minutes of their normal schedule to post a poster in their office, > school, library it would go a long ways. But we need to know way in advance > what we want to do and when. > > We also have to have mini-events that feed into InstallFest and > InstallFest to COSSFEST. Tag along on not-for profits that have great > coverage like the Calgary Public Library and do free one hour presentations > on topics like Gimp, Open Office, etc. 1 in 10 will come to a InstallFest. > 2 in 10 will come to our regular meetings. 4 in 10 will come out to > COSSFEST. Another promotional opportunity is the Chamber of Commerce > breakfast meetings for small business or the not for profit societies of > which many are in a single building downtown. > > This has been brewing in my mind for a while now and since COSSFEST is > over and I had a bit of time to think, I know this is doable. Election > platform - not really, I am considering not continuing on the exec (it isn't > allot of hard work, but personally it takes too much time and not delivering > the satisfaction of what I like to see in the community). Am I committed to > Linux and Open Source -- yes, but as usual looking for the bang for the buck > whether it is money or time. > > I am sincerely hoping that people will jump on this thread and help flush > this out. Is it the absolutely the solution - no, anything can be improved > upon. I neither think that I am the smartest in the group nor the dumbest, > but like many have the heart in the right place but still failing to find an > avenue to turn it into something better. > > For all of you that are looking at what's in it for me - absolutely > nothing if that is the first thought and everything if it is successful. > Informing begets adopters, adopters begets evangelists, evangelists begets > decision makers -- all of which creates a better environment for both the > community, the environment and CLUG. Like I have said to some of you > before, it doesn't change things in my working lifetime, it will be a start > in the right direction for my kids. > > Regards, > > Kin > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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