And I thought I was the only one having problems with kde4!  Here are some
points I was going to send to kde.org.  Maybe I should get your comments
first.

For some time I have been using:
a) kde 3.5.10 on a desktop PC (amd64, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD) running debian 5.0
and
b) kde 4.1.4 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop (intel centrino, 1GB RAM, 80GB
HD) running kubuntu 8.10

On the basis of this experience I conclude that kde 3.5.10 is a lot better
that kde 4.1.4.  This conclusion is based on the behaviour of two features
of kde; konqueror as a file manager and the panel (aka task bar).

Here is a list of things that can be done with the panel under kde 3.5.10
which cannot be done under kde 4.1.4
1. Easily change the appearance: e.g.the size of the icons, the names of
icons
2. Easily add icons for applications (both kde and non kde apps) to the
panel
3. Discover what an icon (both kde and non kde apps) on the panel refers to
by hovering the pointer over it.

Here is a list of things konqueror 3.5.10 will do as a file manager that
konqueror 4.1.4 can't do or does badly.
1. Highlight a list of adjacent file or folders by outlining with the
pointer then dragging and dropping them in another location.
2. Displaying an icon on the tool bar that when clicked, and the open folder
contains jpeg,files allows easy viewing of the images.
3. Version 3.5.10 automatically puts an icon on the panel that opens
konqueror as a file manager with the home folder, or the last folder
opened, shown  With version 4.1.4 this requires more steps.

Robin


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

> bogi wrote:
> > So, you would guess, i use KDE, and KDE4 as of late.
> > And in general, i am OK with it. It is a totally new environment, but i
> can,
> > and will get used to it.
> > Now to the gritty parts.
> >
> > Migration:
> >       First , since some distros dont ship kde4 as the default, or also
> ship kde3,
> > they mostly use .kde for kde3 and .kde4 for kde4 ... now the moment you
> switch
> > from say kde3 to 4 , either voluntarily or forcibly all your application
> > settings mail passwords just to think of a few things are gone. and for a
> > novice user, they are GONE *poof* cant see , cant find , no solution, no
> > suggestion. I am quite sure, a situation like this can be mitigated
> without a
> > lot of hassle, but it is not being addressed at the moment.
> >
> My biggest problem with KDE 4.x is how the various distros are
> presenting it.  I personally think Kubuntu has  done more harm than good
> to the KDE project since switching to KDE 4.  My biggest gripe is Amarok
> 2.  It is simply not ready and is missing key functionality like being
> able to manage my iPod.  You have to add a 3rd party source to apt or
> build from scratch in order to get Amarok 1.4 which is pretty fantastic.
>
> By shipping an incomplete 4.x they give an inaccurate picture of the
> state of things.  Since I am not leaving the Ubuntu or Debian world
> anytime soon, I am back to Gnome.  Of course I could never live without
> some of my favourite kde apps (konsole, konversation, yakuake,
> konqueror, krusader, and okular are the most important to me).
>
> <snip>
> > So when you make the quantum leap, make sure your .kde folder is backed
> up,
> > and your file manager is ready to move some files over :-)
>
> This is always a good idea.  We all backup the important stuff right?
>
>
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