2013/11/21 Stephen Kelly <steve...@gmail.com>: > Brad King wrote: >> IMO the --help-* command-line options are >> still present only for basic compatibility with pre-3.0 help and >> should not be a focus of workflow enhancements. > > I don't consider --help-command an 'only compatibility' feature. It's the > primary way I read cmake documentation.
+1 Same for me. The same is true for --help-variable for both CMake and CPack and was expecting the same thing for CTest. I did already said that and Brad answered that: 1) He doesn't want to filter command/variable between CMake/CPack/CTest http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/cmake-developers/2013-October/008610.html http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/cmake-developers/2013-October/008615.html 2) He doesn't want to dynamically parse rst files so that "directive-defined" variables (or command) do not currently appear in --help-[variable|command][-list] >From "my" point of view this is a great feature loss because: I almost only use --help-xxx to get documentation. I like the dynamicity of pre-doc-move CPack documentation dynamicity where if you change your CPackXXXX.cmake module the command line doc gets automatically updated as well. I think that Sphinx "batch processing" for browsable and indexed doc is great but it does not means that the --help-xxx is made obsolete. >> The output of the >> individual domain objects is still pretty easy to use. > > By 'domain object', do you mean the individual .rst files? How would you > read them without --help-command and without find+cat? How find+cat easier > than --help-command? > >> All the >> other output is just whole man pages which are better viewed with >> real man page or html viewers. > > The --help-command option is much more convenient than > > man cmake-commands > /find_package > n # enough times to get to the find_package docs, not references to it. > > It is also a disadvantage that the man context is not the command line > context. Think of when you use cat or head instead of vi/less. > > Are you referring to something more convenient? I'm not a man page expert. > There may be another way to get to the find_package docs than the above? +1 again. Not mentionning that if you have a shell with properly configured completion you are **very efficiently accessing the doc** with cma<tab> --> cmake cmake --help-co<TAB> --> cmake --help-command cmake --help-command find_pac<TAB> --> cmake --help-command find_package currently I can obtain (almost) the information cmake --help-manual cmake-commands | less /find_package$ You won't get other reference with the $ at the end. Completion is more efficient because it is more tolerant to typing error because you type less character. I'd really like to have a command line tool with dynamic doc features. If it's considered too costly for cmake/ctest/cpack then may be I can try to craft a "cdoc" command line tool which can do just that. Note that current sphinx generated documentation (I tested HTML) contains "directive-defined" variable/command in the index only. Utilities/Sphinx/html/genindex.html you don't get any in: Utilities/Sphinx/html/manual/cmake-variables.7.html Utilities/Sphinx/html/manual/cmake-commands.7.html nor in: Utilities/Sphinx/html/commands/* Utilities/Sphinx/html/variables/* i.e. cpack_add_component is only there: Utilities/Sphinx/html/module/CPackComponent.html#command:cpack_add_component or CPACK_PROJECT_CONFIG_FILE only there: Utilities/Sphinx/html/module/CPack.html#variable:CPACK_PROJECT_CONFIG_FILE I would have expected those vars to appear in "commands" and "variables". -- Erk L'élection n'est pas la démocratie -- http://www.le-message.org -- Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the CMake FAQ at: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://public.kitware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cmake-developers