Alan W. Irwin wrote:

Hi Bill:

Plplot now builds for the cvs version of CMake so I am finally in a position
to continue this thread.

Here is the 2.4.8 latency for the current version of PLplot

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> time make >& /dev/null
real    0m1.454s
user    0m0.800s
sys     0m0.724s

By repeating this command, I get variations of typically 0.01 seconds in this
result.  (I also confirmed the command did not actually build anything new,
i.e. it is a true measure of Makefile latency.)

For cmake version 2.7-20080320 (that cvs update done after the above commit)
the latency has been increased (by 60 per cent) to

real    0m2.319s
user    0m1.356s
sys     0m1.068s

Again, I confirmed it was a true measure of the Makefile latency.

I also did some tests with the -r option for GNU make.

For 2.4.8 the latency is reduced by a factor of 1.5 to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> time make -r >& /dev/null

real    0m0.970s
user    0m0.636s
sys     0m0.568s

That would indicate there is a lot to be gained by the .PHONY target for
the non-file rules in generated GNU Makefiles.

For the cvs version of CMake the latency is reduced hardly at all by
the -r option

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> time make -r >& /dev/null

real    0m2.287s
user    0m1.324s
sys     0m0.964s

In sum, the current result for the cvs version of cmake seems to create
builds with significantly increased latency compared to 2.4.8.  The -r
option greatly increases this disparity.  I think this is an important
enough result that further tests of "make" latency for other software
projects are important to confirm these results.

Question for Alex Nuendorf:

Alex, I imagine the KDE latency is much larger than PLplot's since your
build has _a lot_ more dependencies to check. Are the current KDE builds in good enough shape so that repeat make commands measure true Makefile latency
rather than some issue with unneeded compilation, linking, or whatever?  If
so, I would be very interested in your latency results for cmake-2.4.8
versus the cvs version of CMake.


Something is odd here. I don't think that much changed in the structure of the makefiles from 2.4.8 to CVS. Did you build your CVS CMake release or debug? What if you do make -d, is it actually checking lots of extra stuff? Can you compare make -d in CVS and 2.4.8?

-Bill
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