In the "Guidelines for Skilled Nursing Facility (SNF) Consolidated Billing" letter 
from CMS--found on the AANAC website, page 2 states under letter B.  The follwing are 
exluded from SNF consilidated billing ante the institutional or technical component 
must be billed separately to the Medicare FI:
. The following services furnished on an outpatenent basis by a hospital or critical 
access hospital:
-Cardiac catheterization services
-Computerized axial tomography scans;
-Magnetic resonance imaging
-Ambualtory surgery involving the use of an operating room;
-Radiation therapy;
-Emergency services;
-Angiography;
-Lymphatic and venous procedures;
-Ambulance services furnished in connection with any of the above outpatient hospital 
services.

So, since it says that Ambulance services furnished in connection with Emergency 
services is an exclusion, I would think that the return trip from the ER is "in 
connection" with the Emergency services.  So, therefore, also an exclusion.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marie A. King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Oct 30, 2003 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Emergency Ambulance return trip to the facility

There are ambulance companies that are taking the
resident as an emergency, but when the resident is
stable and not admitted, they are billing the facility
for the return to the SNF.  Is there something that
directs them to include the round trip in the
emergency transfer?
--- carol maher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> No, emergency ambulance transports are an exclusion
> if the resident meets the criteria for needing an
> ambulance.   Routine trips to  a doctor's office or
> clinic in an ambulance are not excluded, but
> emergency ER visits are exclusions.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Oct 30, 2003 7:20 AM
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Consolidated Billing - Help! having a
> senior moment
> 
> I am having "senior moment" Consolidated Billing -
> Ambulance to ER for an
> EMERGENCY visit, resident not admitted. We are
> responsible for BOTH the
> ambulance ride TO and FROM the ER if patient is MED
> A, am I correct??
> 
> 
>
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