RE: time off- christmas

[Faye Jones]

Call the Labor Board.  Hopefully personnel policies and your vacation approval were in writing for verification.  I am not a labor law expert but I do know there are regulations to protect the workforce and you should look into it.  Many years ago I called the labor board about something I was dealing with and found out my employer couldn’t do what they had planned.  Needless to say when I confronted them with the law, they were angry but had to change their plans.  Oh well too bad for them.  It is always nice to be a team player but fair is fair.   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Rich Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: time off- christmas   I work in a facility in the state of Tenn. The owner of this facility recently walked in and revoked all vacation time. Employees were told all time was lost and they started at square one as of Jan. 1 2004. Also told vacation was to be taken between may 30 and sept. 1st for the entire facility. I had been off the week before because of my honeymoon and was told although the administrator approved it 1 month prior it would not be vacation because all vacation had been lost. One emplyee had taken her last two weeks vac. prior to retirement and was depending on this check to carry her over until retirement kicked in and was denied her pay. What do you think of someone who would be this unethical and immoral? nursing staff already work at dangerously short ratios. Decubitus ulcer are on the rise, wgt loss has gone up, complaints from families and physicians and morale is nonexsistant. does anyone have a suggestion? I am already job hunting. The really sad part is there were good staff here and at one time cared. I feel now care in negligent and it scares me. m silberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bingo.... this is what the problem is with our lousy profession. After all, we are only human and do enjoy spending at least a fair share of holidays an d a vacation with our families. Nathan wrote: I wonder how many nurses and CNAs end up quitting a job just to get a vacation. With the upcoming nursing shortage, this will probably become more common. Around November/December and again in the summer I bet resignations go up. Nurses quit, take a vacation and then get another job. With there being little benefit to staying with one employer, why not do it this way?   Nathan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faye Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:52 AM Subject: RE: time off- christmas       The unfairness r/t seniority if no checks in place is the reason ourpolicies changed r/t vacation from Memorial to Labor Day and over theChristmas holidays.  I had worked here 2 years and could not get asummer vacation.  People with seniority would request practically thewhole summer off as much as a year in advance and with staffing quotasthat left the rest of us out in the cold.  Needless to say, I with mymany years of working and a "big" mouth stirred the pot and won.  Afterall, we have 4 seasons here Getting ready for winter, having winter,recovering from winter and a short summer and I don't care how longanyone has worked anywhere, every one is entitled to a little prime timeoff. Ditto for Christmas although I usually volunteer to work Christmasas I have no children living at home anymore. -----Original Message-----From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf OfConnie L. FrankSent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:23 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: time off- christmas We're union. They have off by when the request was turned in andseniority.In the past, administration discouraged staff from requesting off afterDec15 but now even the top staff take off the 2 weeks. There are MANYdisgruntled employees as a result of this. You can encourage staff totaketurns and consider the feelings of others, however when so many feel itisowed them as they gain seniority, some will never see a holiday off.....Some CNAs and Licensed staff just move to departments that don't have towork holidays, like housekeeping, laundry and maintenance. It's the onlywaythey can get the time off....and you are losing some extremely competentpeople from the nursing dept. -----Original Message-----From: Holly McGran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:06 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: time off- christmas We do the same - we have had that in our personnel policy for many years-people will get use to it.Holly QI in CT     -----Original Message-----From: Eva Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:32 AMTo:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:      time off- christmas Hi, all-I know this is not mds, but I was to check with other facilities about      this:    We are re-doing our employee handbook.  At present we do not allow      vacation time to be taken from 12/20-1/2.    We allow 2 christmas holidays and New years holiday to be used during      thistime and regular days off.    This is so we have enough staff and the same longevity staff don't      alwaystake the 2 weeks of christmas off.    We are trying to be fair to staff and cover resident needs. However, some are now grumbling and want to change. How do you all handle the Christmas holiday and vacations etc.??      /----------------------------------------------------------The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators      "Committed to the Assessment Professional"Be sure to visit the AANAC website. 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