Drugstores May Charge for Consultations 

By MARC LEVY, Associated Press Writer 

CAMP HILL, Pa. - Jaime White helps her diabetes patients understand 
how to manage their blood sugar, checks their blood pressure, and 
sometimes even examines their feet for loss of sensation from nerve 
damage common to diabetes sufferers. 

Her patients are West Virginia state employees participating in a 
program offered by Camp Hill-based Rite Aid Corp., the nation's 
third-largest drugstore chain. They meet with White at one of two 
drugstores, and their insurer pays the bills: $80 for initial 
visits, $20 for follow-ups. 


Pharmacists like White have long been called on by customers to do 
more than just fill prescriptions. But drugstores, from giants like 
Rite Aid to smaller regional chains, are looking to expand their 
counseling programs and boost revenue � a trend that could be 
bolstered by the prescription-drug benefit that will become 
available to Medicare enrollees in 2006. 


"Many of (the chains) have started to look at how they can transform 
a pharmacy from a place where one can obtain drugs into a place 
where you deliver health care," said John M. Coster, vice president 
of policy and programs for the National Association of Chain Drug 
Stores. 


The chains say that regular patient consultations help patients stay 
healthier because many patients don't take their medication 
correctly. As a result, they say, both patients and insurers will 
save money. 


But to provide a pharmacists' time and private rooms for the 
consultations, stores need to be reimbursed by insurers, as in 
White's program, the companies say. 


The hurdle is getting insurers to agree to the reimbursements. Such 
reimbursement is common for pharmacists who work in nursing homes, 
but nowhere else, those in the industry say. 


Under the law President Bush (news - web sites) signed in December, 
insurers providing Medicare drug plans must provide a medication 
consulting service for patients whose illnesses and prescription use 
meet certain thresholds. 


The federal government has not finalized how the consulting programs 
will work, and there are conflicting ideas over the shape of final 
regulations. 


Drugstores and pharmacist groups want retail pharmacies to play a 
significant role. Insurers generally support the idea of pharmacist 
checkups, but want more flexibility. 


For instance, some insurers already have in-house systems in which 
enrollees can consult by telephone with a pharmacist, which they 
would like the regulations to accommodate, said Mohit Ghose, a 
spokesman for America's Health Insurance Plans, a group that 
represents insurers. 


The services tend to target people with one or more long-term 
illnesses. 


JoAnn McCleaf, a 70-year-old cancer survivor who takes medication 
for cardiovascular disease and high cholesterol, said she does not 
see the need for pharmacist checkups: She finds free information on 
the Internet and aggressively questions her doctor about medications 
he prescribes. 


"I can't see that a pharmacist can give me a better explanation than 
my doctor does," said McCleaf, who lives near Newberrytown, 
Pa. "It's going to be a terrible financial drain on Medicare." 


The American Medical Association hasn't developed a stand on the 
issue. But a board member, Dr. Edward Langston, of Lafayette, Ind., 
cautioned that Medicare is a "zero sum game" and that any new 
program that is reimbursed will draw money from other programs. 


He also said consultations should be subject to oversight and 
evaluation. 


Bill Wilmer, 68, a retired city worker in Asheville, N.C., said his 
physician takes care of him when he has a problem, but his 
pharmacist is like a coach who works to keep him healthy. 

   



Wilmer, who takes medication for diabetes, high cholesterol and 
congestive heart failure, has seen a Kerr Drug pharmacist a few 
times a year since the late 1990s through his insurer. 

"I think I am far better off in the program with the pharmacist than 
on my own, trying to learn, hit or miss," Wilmer said. "I wouldn't 
feel uncomfortable asking my doctor any question, but what I'm 
saying is that the coach is there." 

Daniel Stokley, 69, of Wendell, N.C., last week began a counseling 
program with a Kerr Drug pharmacist that is paid for by a 
pharmaceutical company grant. His physician recommended it, he said. 

For the drugstores, the consulting revenue could help them compete 
with online pharmacies and restore some profit margins on 
prescriptions that HMOs and pharmacy benefits managers have squeezed 
in recent years. 

Coster said he doesn't expect consultation revenue to amount to 
a "big windfall," and industry analysts said it's too early to tell 
how important this niche will be to the drugstores. 

But, said Mark Miller, of the Chicago-based investment firm, William 
Blair & Co. LLC, he expects drugstores to continue looking for new 
ways that pharmacists can bring in revenue. 

Drugstores and pharmacist groups say the goal is to make the 
consultation programs available to everyone who takes medication, at 
least as a companion to traditional, over-the-counter advice. 

"There will always be some advice that's provided with the 
dispensing and then there's the in-depth medication review, 
like, 'We really need to sit down and talk about your diabetes,'" 
said Susan C. Winckler, staff counsel and vice president for policy 
and communications for the American Pharmacists Association. 

Eager to expand the programs, drug chains are retrofitting stores 
with private consultation rooms and trying to persuade insurers, one 
by one, to reimburse them for the service, even if on a trial basis. 

The 102-store Kerr Drug chain, based in Raleigh, N.C., has installed 
consultation rooms in 10 stores, and its pharmacists take part in a 
dozen different counseling programs, said Rebecca Chater, Kerr 
Drug's group manager for clinical services. 

Rite Aid has pilot programs for Washington state's Medicaid program 
and West Virginia's state employees. 

Walgreen Co., the nation's largest drugstore chain, has a handful of 
pilot programs in states including Wisconsin, New Mexico and Texas. 

"We're looking at the potential there to expand services," Walgreen 
spokesman Michael Polzin said. "Certainly, the new Medicare program 
could help move these along. ... But a lot of that depends on how 
the final regulations look." 

___ 

On the Net: 

Walgreen Co.: http://www.walgreen.com 

Rite Aid Corp.: http://www.riteaid.com 

Kerr Drug Inc.: http://www.kerrdrug.com 

National Association of Chain Drug Stores: http://www.nacds.org 

American Pharmacists Association: http://www.aphanet.org 






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