Thanks Beth, Yes I have asked my Onc to lower my dose, but he says if it  
isn't broke don't fix it.
I go to the Moffitt Cancer Center and they are a research facility but  my 
onc didn't mention the other drugs.  I think he is happy I am in  remission 
and Sprycel was the only drug that put me in remission.  He also  said none 
of his patients have had PE and that is something I should no worry  about, 
but I do as I have heard bad stories about it.
Does Sprycel come in 40 mgs?
I have 50 mg tablets.  They tell you not to cut them.
Thanks again,
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 9/4/2012 11:33:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bkbar...@aol.com writes:

HI  Jeanie, thanks for sharing. I am so sorry you have had such a hard 
time of  it.
Sprycel is a very potent drug. 300X plus that of gleevec. Your side  
effects seem to suggest a lot of toxicity. Have you had a second  
opinion regarding dosage? I don't know what other's feel, but I think  
when we have a very hard time with the drugs, another pair of expert  
eyes and ears can sometimes help us. I don't know what is best for you,  
but 100 mgs is now the standard doseage of sprycel, it used to be much  
higher until their research showed that more of the drug produced  
serious side effects more often without any added benefits of  
remission. Many people take 50, or 70, 80....I'm doing 40 right now...a  
slightly less dose seems to make a big difference in side effects in  
most people.  The plureal effusion..risk also lessons with a lesser  
doseage.... also, just an FYI in case you may not know..., ponatinib is  
now available for compassionate use, it does not seem to have the same  
level of PE risk.  Compassionate use is if you are intolerant or  
resistant to the three other drugs. You qualify.  The drug company  
appears to be being quite generous with it's use right now. They have  
rapid access for those who need it. For all of us out there, we need to  
keep ourselves and each other apprised of options ...as we come to know  
them..
there is hope....and blessings that we have each other....and  the 
constant research that supports more and more options...may you feel  
some relief from your toxicity... Peace..

Keep us posted.  hug,....Beth
-----Original Message-----
From: ICANDOALLTTC  <icandoall...@aol.com>
To: cmlhope  <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2012 2:43 pm
Subject:  Re: [CMLHope] Re: stopping meds.


Hi Beth, I was started on Sprycel  after the two other drugs, Gleevec 
and Tasigna just quit on me.  They  started me on 300 megs and my counts 
started dropping rapidly.  Then  I was put on 100 mgs daily and it put 
me in remission in 3 months.   All this while they were doing bone 
marrow checks every month.
Some of  my side effects are:
heavy heart beat felt in chest
headaches  daily
pain in my right side
tired
weak
My blood pressure has gone  up lately also.
I am worried about PE.
Hope this helps  Beth.
Jeanie<3


In a message dated 8/29/2012 10:49:15  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
bkbar...@aol.com writes:
Carolyn, Have you  had plural efusion before? Since you have been on a
low dose of sprycel for  years, has this happened before to you? ARe you
on a diuretic on a regular  basis? I am on sprycel as well, have been
for the last two years. concerned  about swelling, but manage it through
diuretic and potassium. just wondered  what your history has been? How
is your muscle fatigue on the sprycel?  thanks for the info, helpful to
me to talk withothers on the same meds.  Beth


-----Original Message-----
From: TEDBDD  <ted...@aol.com>
To: cmlhope  <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 28, 2012 7:48  am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: stopping meds.


Richard....I am  totally with you and your decision.  The longer I live
with CML the  more I understand that there are few "givens".  Each of us
reacts  differently to the TKI's and we must make individual decisions. 
Like  you, I am so grateful for these amazing drugs that have enabled us
all to  enjoy life in a way not possible 20 years ago.  All the best in
your  journey.  Tom in KY


In a message dated 8/27/2012  11:50:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
richard1huff...@comcast.net  writes:

Each of us need to do what is best for that person.  My  situation is
being monitored by some of our best specialists.  I have  other major
medical problems that are being monitored also.  I have a  heart issues,
lung issues from three bouts with pnemonia when I was young  and 40
years of smoking.  Some of the newer meds are under  consideration but
with Gleevec's history of complications compared with the  newer meds
know problems to date makes me pause and ask a lot of questions  about
what would me right for me.  I smiply post what is happening to  me
without recommendation what would be right in anyone else's  situation. 
The one problem I can help address is that CML is  becoming a lifetime
condition and not the death sentence is used to  be.  We are so
fortunate to have some of our members that survived  until the need meds
were found.  They are my strength to challange CML  headon in a
different direction than most CML Specialists and  CMLer's.  Shortly
after my diagnosis I discussed whith my ONC about  participating in the
trials of available other that Gleevec.  He  advised me to take Gleevec
as it wasn't my time to be in trials but someday  I would have my turn. 
I am 4 years and counting to see if my  body can control CML at a low
level.  That in itself is a miracle  considing when you consider I was
given a 5 - 10 year lifespan and  now I will die of something else.

Life,
Richard  H.

On Monday, August 27, 2012 3:49:53 PM UTC-5, jku...@wi.rr.com  wrote:
Hi CML Group.

I haven't posted in a long time but the lastest  post about not taking
meds interested me.  I have been on Sprycel 20mg  bid for about
5 years.  My onocologist checks pcr levels and also a  fish test every
three months.  9 times out of ten the CML is  undectable but every once
in awhile there is a very minute count.  It  tells me that the CML is
just under the surface.  I recently had to  have a liter of fluid taken
out of the plura around the lung from the  sprycel.  My onocologist told
me whatever I do don't stop taking the  meds.  I assured him I would
follow his directions to the "T" as I  feel without these miracle drugs
this would be a death sentence.  That  is why I was amazed that Drs. are
recommending stopping the therapy.  Maybe my onocologist is just being
cautious.
Carolyn  Kuptz



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