Carlos,

> There is a VERY narrow number of vendors of corporate CMS which manage
>both e-learning and corporate content. (ANY who are out there reading this
>PLEASE come forward if you really DO manage both and integrate with LMS
> applications!).

We develop both CMS and LMS products. Our LMS uses the CMS to allow
customers to personilize/co brand it.

Himansu Karunadasa
CTO
MediaDefined
www.mediadefined.com

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From: "Carol Avis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:59 PM
Subject: [cms-list] RE: Online training


> Darrell,
>
> You wrote you are " currently researching various CMS solutions for our
org.
> " and that you were llokiing for "a product that offers the delivery of
> training content
> along side of their CMS...Specifically, allowing the following:
>
>  - media presentations (video, flash, etc.)
>  - text documentation
>  - Testing
>
> "I'm not necessarily looking for a CMS with those features, rather I was
> wondering if there is a class of products that fall into a 'Traning
> Management System' classification that potentially integrates into a
larger
> CMS."
>
> My company has a similar need and our results may be of interst to you.
>
> We have defined our need as a CMS that can allow us to manage the
following:
> 1) our already in-house developed e-learning content
> 2) other corporate content -- intranet, internet, and documents
>
> We presently develop and deliver our product by including BlackBoard in
our
> suite of tools -- for development as well as delivery. What we need is a
> corporate CMS that is e-learning aware i.e. that allows us to firstly
better
> manage our e-learning content, and later to be expanded to other content.
>
> To meet our needs we have looked at a range of products commercial and
open
> source. We reluctantly are inclined -- because of our paucity of internal
> skills -- to go the commercial route.
>
> Within that route, we were then faced with a) good LCMS or b) e-learning
> aware CMS which can integrate with LMS (BlackBoard).  Because we wanted to
> keep to one system to do both e-learning content and corporate content,
> we're leaning towards b).
>
> There is a VERY narrow number of vendors of corporate CMS which manage
both
> e-learning and corporate content. (ANY who are out there reading this
PLEASE
> come forward if you really DO manage both and integrate with LMS
> applications!). We have elected to examine An Australia product which
> appears to have incredible potential. The australian DOD have also
> discovered
> it, as has Open Learning Australia (a consortium of 7-8 Aussie
> universities). The company is Harvest Road. Their CMS proportedly will
> integrate tightly with BlackBoard to create a final product called HIVE
that
> manages both e-learning and corporate. We are about to give it a suite of
> tests.
>
> Harvest Road's HIVE may be worth investgating for your own needs, Darrell:
> www.harvestroad.com/. It is reasonaly priced as CMS's go.  (And you US
> dollar will make that purchase even better!).  If there is anyone out
there
> you have implemented Harvest Road's HIVE to acieve goals similar to
ours --
> manage in-houise developed e-learning content and corporate content, I
would
> very much like to hear from you.
>
> regards,
>
> Carol Avis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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>    1. Online training (OT?) (Austin, Darrel)
>    2. RE: Online training (OT?) (Steve Drucker)
>    3. Re: Documentum CMS Consulting/Implementation (ROBERT NELSON)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Austin, Darrel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 11:48:16 -0600
> Subject: [cms-list] Online training (OT?)
>
> This may be completely off topic, but it seems to have some correlation
with
> CMS.
>
> We're currently researching various CMS solutions for our org. We've
> recently added a secondary need...online training/courseware/testing. Has
> anyone worked with a product that offers the delivery of training content
> along side of their CMS?
>
> Specifically, we need the following:
>
>  - media presentations (video, flash, etc.)
>  - text documentation
>  - Testing
>
> I'm not necessarily looking for a CMS with those features, rather I was
> wondering if there is a class of products that fall into a 'Traning
> Management System' classification that potentially integrates into a
larger
> CMS.
>
> I hope that makes sense.
>
> -Darrel
>
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>
> Message: 2
> From: Steve Drucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Austin, Darrel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [cms-list] Online training (OT?)
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:54:05 -0500
>
> Well, it's probably way overkill...but you might want to start looking at
> Blackboard (www.blackboard.com)
>
> >From more of a ground-up development perspective, check out the
Macromedia
> Flash Communications Server
(http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashcom/).
> This is a relatively new product and there are a number of ISV's that are
> basing products around it....
>
> Regards,
> Steve Drucker
> CEO
> Fig Leaf Software
> www.figleaf.com
> 1-877-FIG-LEAF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Austin, Darrel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [cms-list] Online training (OT?)
>
> This may be completely off topic, but it seems to have some correlation
with
> CMS.
>
> We're currently researching various CMS solutions for our org. We've
> recently added a secondary need...online training/courseware/testing. Has
> anyone worked with a product that offers the delivery of training content
> along side of their CMS?
>
> Specifically, we need the following:
>
>  - media presentations (video, flash, etc.)
>  - text documentation
>  - Testing
>
> I'm not necessarily looking for a CMS with those features, rather I was
> wondering if there is a class of products that fall into a 'Traning
> Management System' classification that potentially integrates into a
larger
> CMS.
>
> I hope that makes sense.
>
> -Darrel
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> a wish for peace in the new year.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:34:30 -0700
> From: ROBERT NELSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [cms-list] Re: Documentum CMS Consulting/Implementation
>
> Jim =
>
> Following up on your post and in the same vien as Joseph Martins' first r=
> eply,
> I can give you a indirect reference to a firm.
>
> Background, I am an independent consultant working with a retail firm bas=
> ed in
> the Pacific Northwest.  In the fall of this year the firm was looking at
> enterprise class document/content mgmt solutions.  They, for a variety of=
>
> reasons, narrowed their platform choices down to Documentum and FileNet. =
>  I
> was part of the team that was to evaluate both products, as part of that
> effort we had both firms come in and present (typical dog & pony effort) =
> to
> us.  One of the questions we asked was +IBw-Who are the top 3
> integrators/implementers of your packages?+IB0  Both Documentum and FileN=
> et
> listed one firm, Covansys Corporation, (www.covansys.com) in their top th=
> ree. =
>
> They both also listed their own professional services groups.  Interestin=
> g
> (for what it is worth) Documentum, only listed those 2, FileNet listed 1 =
> other
> firm.  =
>
>
> We were a little intrigued; Covansys appears to be the normal systems
> integrator/consulting firm, not bad size; $400 million, which we liked.  =
> It
> meant that they were not going to go away tomorrow, but not so big that t=
> hey
> would act like a big five.  They had a smaller +IBw-practice+IB0 that foc=
> used on
> document/content management specifically and this was the group that
> Documentum and FileNet both spoke about.  We also liked the fact that the=
> ir
> price points were a lot lower than the vendor+IBk-s professional services=
>  groups
> and they were willing to be flexible in structuring the agreement to prov=
> ide
> work in a manner that fit our plans.
>
> If you are interested I can provide the contact information for the proje=
> ct
> lead at this retail firm and he can probably provide the contact informat=
> ion
> at Covansys.  As I understand this firm is working through the set up of =
> a
> master services agreement with Covansys and plans on using them in 2003 f=
> or
> the document/content mgmt implementation.
>
> Good luck
>
> Rob Nelson
>
>
> > =
>
> >    1. CMS Consulting/Implementation (Lefevere, Jim {D163+AH4-Indianapol=
> is})
> >    2. Re: Documentum CMS Consulting/Implementation (joseph martins)
> > =
>
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>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:43:13 -0500
> > From: "Lefevere, Jim {D163+AH4-Indianapolis}" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [cms-list] CMS Consulting/Implementation
> > =
>
> > I apologize in advance if this is a redundant question for many of you.=
>  =3D
> > I'm implementing Documentum as a CMS in 2003. Aside from Documentum's
=3D=
>
> > professional consulting services can anybody provide names of =3D
> > integration/consulting firms that you've had success with for =3D
> > implementation?
> > =
>
> > Thanks.
> > =
>
>
>
>
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