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RE: Online training (Carol Avis) --__--__-- Message: 1 Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Carol Avis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:59:53 +1100 Subject: [cms-list] RE: Online training Darrell, You wrote you are " currently researching various CMS solutions for our org. " and that you were llokiing for "a product that offers the delivery of training content along side of their CMS...Specifically, allowing the following: - media presentations (video, flash, etc.) - text documentation - Testing "I'm not necessarily looking for a CMS with those features, rather I was wondering if there is a class of products that fall into a 'Traning Management System' classification that potentially integrates into a larger CMS." My company has a similar need and our results may be of interst to you. We have defined our need as a CMS that can allow us to manage the following: 1) our already in-house developed e-learning content 2) other corporate content -- intranet, internet, and documents We presently develop and deliver our product by including BlackBoard in our suite of tools -- for development as well as delivery. What we need is a corporate CMS that is e-learning aware i.e. that allows us to firstly better manage our e-learning content, and later to be expanded to other content. To meet our needs we have looked at a range of products commercial and open source. We reluctantly are inclined -- because of our paucity of internal skills -- to go the commercial route. Within that route, we were then faced with a) good LCMS or b) e-learning aware CMS which can integrate with LMS (BlackBoard). Because we wanted to keep to one system to do both e-learning content and corporate content, we're leaning towards b). There is a VERY narrow number of vendors of corporate CMS which manage both e-learning and corporate content. (ANY who are out there reading this PLEASE come forward if you really DO manage both and integrate with LMS applications!). We have elected to examine An Australia product which appears to have incredible potential. The australian DOD have also discovered it, as has Open Learning Australia (a consortium of 7-8 Aussie universities). The company is Harvest Road. Their CMS proportedly will integrate tightly with BlackBoard to create a final product called HIVE that manages both e-learning and corporate. We are about to give it a suite of tests. Harvest Road's HIVE may be worth investgating for your own needs, Darrell: www.harvestroad.com/. It is reasonaly priced as CMS's go. (And you US dollar will make that purchase even better!). If there is anyone out there you have implemented Harvest Road's HIVE to acieve goals similar to ours -- manage in-houise developed e-learning content and corporate content, I would very much like to hear from you. regards, Carol Avis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cms-list digest, Vol 1 #379 - 3 msgs Today's Topics: 1. Online training (OT?) (Austin, Darrel) 2. RE: Online training (OT?) (Steve Drucker) -- __--__-- Message: 1 From: "Austin, Darrel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 11:48:16 -0600 Subject: [cms-list] Online training (OT?) This may be completely off topic, but it seems to have some correlation with CMS. We're currently researching various CMS solutions for our org. We've recently added a secondary need...online training/courseware/testing. Has anyone worked with a product that offers the delivery of training content along side of their CMS? Specifically, we need the following: - media presentations (video, flash, etc.) - text documentation - Testing I'm not necessarily looking for a CMS with those features, rather I was wondering if there is a class of products that fall into a 'Traning Management System' classification that potentially integrates into a larger CMS. I hope that makes sense. -Darrel -- __--__-- Message: 2 From: Steve Drucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Austin, Darrel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [cms-list] Online training (OT?) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:54:05 -0500 Well, it's probably way overkill...but you might want to start looking at Blackboard (www.blackboard.com) >From more of a ground-up development perspective, check out the Macromedia Flash Communications Server (http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashcom/). This is a relatively new product and there are a number of ISV's that are basing products around it.... Regards, Steve Drucker CEO Fig Leaf Software www.figleaf.com 1-877-FIG-LEAF -- http://cms-list.org/ a wish for peace in the new year.