Too much work too.
Just run a heavy cable from the mast to a metal jack stand ;)

Joe Della Barba


-----Original Message-----
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:30 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac: Lightning on the hard

I think if your "lightning rod" rig ever did get hit, you'd find that the heat 
from the bolt instantaneously melted the halyard to which it was tied....

Which would result in the how rig dropping 50 feet to your deck. Not sure how 
the deck would fair...

Add to that injury the insult that the stuff that was dropping (the wood, the 
copper, the chain) was probably still on fire or certainly glowing red.  Which 
may set the deck on fire or at least scar it...

Unless it was a wire halyard.  But the bolt may yet still melt the nicropress 
that forms the eye in the halyard.....

Food for thought. 

-Keith


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Brennan [mailto:jackbren...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 16:56
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac: Lightning on the hard

I fashioned a home-made lightning rod for my boat.

I bought some thin copper tubing and strapped a four-foot section to a piece of 
hardwood, then attached 40 feet of no. 4 electrical cable to the tubing. 
To provide support for the cable, I ran 40 feet of line tied together at set 
intervals.

At the bottom of the cable, I used a ground strap to connect the cable to a 
length of chain, with the rest of the copper tubing wrapped around the chain to 
provide plenty of edge for the lightning to disperse. The line, of course, is 
also tied to the chain.

The idea is to straighten the flexible tube at the top, then run it up a

spare halyard so the copper tubing is above the VHF antenna. Toss the chain 
overboard and you have a direct connection to ground without using your rigging.

Of course, the best-laid plans ...

I had lightning strike very close a couple of months ago. But I was anchoring 
in a cove at the time to wait out the storm and hadn't had time yet to deploy 
the lightning rod. A charge from the lightning zapped, oddly, my battery 
monitor and my 110-volt battery charger, both old pieces of gear.

Everything else was fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin DeYoung
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac: Lightning on the hard

>> ...but grounding it also makes it attract lightning.   As there are
now 
>> many grounded boats,  It's now likely that the safe boats are the
ones 
>> not grounded.   <<

This statement differs from my understanding, granted I am no expert but I have 
read much on the topic and have sailed (mid-Pacific, Lake Ontario, and Puget 
Sound) with lightning striking the water within sight.

The theory I put the most stock in refers to the difference in potential

between the boat and the static charge (lightning's energy).

For example; if the ocean around your boat all has a plus 2 charge (++) and 
your mast has a plus 4 charge (++++) then the mast looks better than the

near by water.  When underway and faced with a lightning storm I would drag 
jumper cables, chain, large gauge wire etc over the side with the other end 
attached to Calypso's rod rigging.

My expectation is connecting or bonding the sea to the mast would equalize the 
potential between them reducing the attractiveness of the mast to the lighting 
energy.

I am most interested in any experiences that support or refute this strategy in 
advance of my next lighting storm sail.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

-----Original Message-----
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
On Behalf Of dre...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Isaac: Lightning on the hard

Hi,

On Saturday, the weather predictions had Isaac a cat 2 hurricane heading

right for us.   The travel lift at my marina was working over time, and
by
afternoon the boat yard ran out of stands and were only hauling out those 
who had their own stands.   My boat remained at the slip, and I prepared
for 
the storm.    Fortunately for us, the path went more to the west, and we

experienced tropical storm winds and a 5-6 foot surge.

The only damage occurred to a sailboat which was hauled out.   It was
struct
by lightning which blew out two transducers in the hull and burned a line along 
the hull from the keel forward to a chain which cross-connected the forward 
metal stands( due to the full keel, the chain actually touched the 
bottom of the hull).   The keel was stepped on wooden blocks so it
appears
that the easiest electrical ground path was through the stands.

In short time, this incidence inspired many to ground their boats.  One guy, 
actually has battery cables connecting his shrouds to a piece of rebar pounded 
into the ground.  I never though much about grounding (or
bonding) a
boat on the hard before, but I am not yet convinced that it is a good thing. 
Yes, if my boat is hit by lightning, I would want it well grounded, but 
grounding it also makes it attract lightning.   As there are now many 
grounded boats,  It's now likely that the safe boats are the ones not grounded.



-
Paul E.
s/v Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL


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