Dennis is correct, go for a quality system. I presume your pin stop cars for
Merriman track are like the ones that came on my boat. Regardless of the
size of the split rings, you would never be able to adjust non-bearing cars
under load and that is pretty much the whole idea of of converting to line
adjustable cars.

 

I don’t quite understand why you say the Garhauer cars will cost about $800.
The price for the EZ G2-UB system (with the stand-up swivel block) in my
latest Garhauer price list is $302. (That is what I have on my 38, BTW, and
it works great.) If you want overkill and go to the EZ G3 heavy duty cars
(with a non=swivel block that will accommodate two sheets for sail changes),
the list price is $363. That is two cars, two control line blocks, for both
port and starboard. Adding the swivel cam cleats to put the control lines at
the end of the track would add $100, or you could lead the control lines to
a cam cleat on each cockpit combing. If I had it to do over, I’d put a cleat
on the combing instead of getting the swivel cleats, which are sort of in
inconveniently positioned outside of the primary winches on my 38.

 

When I bought my cars a few years ago, Guido machined the cars to fit my
Merriman H track at no cost. Guido said they used to do it a lot, but I bet
it is less common these days.

 

I’ve crewed on boats with both Lewmar and Harken systems, and I would rate
the Garhauers I have to be as good as the Harken and better than the Lewmars
I have had experience with. They are not as pretty as the Harkens, and
perhaps they weigh a few ounces more, but the Garhauer system is bulletproof
and moves effortlessly under load – which is what really matters to me.

 

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1

la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:49 PM
To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable

 

Wise advice. Thank you  Part of my problem is that I cannot find strong
stainless split rings that will go through the holes of my pins in the cars
to allow them to be adjusted easily. So if I could find a source for the
correct size and strength split rings I could put off on investing in the
adjustable cars for a year or so!

 

Jonathan

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable

 

Jonathan,

 

One of the dangers of asking for info/advice/opinions on this list is you
may get a response you don't want to hear.  

 

Whenever I don't go first rate and buy a premium system, I end up being
dissatisfied and wishing I'd spent the extra $$.

 

My opinion, buy a whole adjustable ball bearing genoa car system including
track.  New tracks won't cost but a fraction of the whole system.  The newer
systems don't use T-track.  T-tracks don't handle the loads as well as the
newer tracks.

 

Years ago, I bought the Lewmar Ocean 1 genoa car system because I was trying
to save a few $$$.  I bought the pin stop cars.  Then I decided I wanted the
adjustable cars so I upgraded.  Lewmar's adjustable cars didn't move well
under load even though they were ball bearing cars.  So....when Lewmar
brought out some "new, improved" ball bearing cars I upgraded....again.
They're much better but still don't move like Harken cars.  Overall, I've
probably spent more than the Harken system.  :(

 

So....try to save $$$ and fall short of being satisfied OR open the wallet
and get a system that works really well and brings you joy.  Your choice.
Your needs and budget may be different than mine.

 

If I had it to over, I'd open the wallet and buy the Harken system even if I
had to wait another year or two.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 


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From: Indigo <ind...@thethomsons.us>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:42 PM
Subject: Stus-List Converting Pin-stop Genoa Cars to adjustable

 

I was wondering if anyone had found a way to convert the Merriman genoa cars
on the C&C 35MK III (or similar) so they are fully adjustable. I believe the
track is 1 ¼ inch “T” track.  I have looked at Garhauer’s EZ Glide, and that
is a possibility, but a little pricey – looks like the set up I would need
will come in at close to $800 before control lines.  I wonder if there are
alternatives – particularly ones that do not involve replacing the track!

 

Jonathan

Indigo – 35Mk III – on the hard in Milford CT

 

 

 


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