Huge steep confused seas that could roll the boat, when you're in the Gulf Stream, etc...........
That was us. Say 15 foot waves from one direction on top of 10 foot swells from another. You got kind of random combinations of little-medium-medium-big-breaker that hit the spreaders on the way down. If I were shorthanded I think we would have towed some stuff to slow us down and turned off the wind for New York or Newport. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I Btw - 50 foot seas? OUCH!!!!!!! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:55 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Heaving-to Yeah...there are times when heaving to is the wrong answer; Huge steep confused seas that could roll the boat, when you're in the Gulf Stream, etc. In that case I would trail warps or a drogue and run under bare poles with someone steering. Did that for a couple of days once in the same area on an older yawl with the breeze gusting to 90 and 50-foot seas. We had to literally lash ourselves to the mizzen while driving so the waves pooping the boat would wash us away from the wheel. I figure Hornblower would have done the same thing! Andy On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com<mailto:j...@dellabarba.com>> wrote: That is kind of what I meant - maybe I worded it wrong. When we had 50 knots coming home from Bermuda, we had 5 on board and decided to push for top speed. We got about 170 miles the first non-to-noon and 180 the next. Heaving-to would have been a nice way to get some rest if needed, but we could survive either way. I think a true "survival storm" would be too much for my fin-keel boat to heave to in. YMMV and all................ Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com<mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> ________________________________ From: Andrew Burton [mailto:a.burton.sai...@gmail.com<mailto:a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:07 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com<mailto:j...@dellabarba.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Heaving-to Joe, heaving to is very much in use as a storm/survival tactic. I've more than once sat out 50-knot winds halfway between Bermuda and New England while hove to. The contrast between trying to make way in that stuff and sitting under the dodger with a cup of tea while hove to is remarkable. And it gives you time to enjoy some alpine scenery, too! Andrew Burton Newport, RI http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com<mailto:j...@dellabarba.com>> wrote: My boat heaves to quite well under main and jib. All I have to do is tack, not release the jib sheet, let the sail back on the new tack, and then turn the boat hard to windward. It is quite useful to "park" for a bit, but not much used anymore as a storm survival tactic. If you can still do that, you can likely sail someplace too. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com<mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Coquina C&C 35 MK I -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 4:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Heaving-to I agree with Dwight. You should be able to heave to with any headsail, because conditions may require it. That said, I prefer not to have my headsail backing against the spreaders, so I prefer rolling up to no more than a 110 or so before heaving to. Cheers Colin On 11/10/12, Marek Fluder <mar...@gmail.com<mailto:mar...@gmail.com>> wrote: > On my 24 I need to reduce the headsail to a handkerchief. > Otherwise main and tiller are not able to keep it balanced. > I think it's because my boat is not heavy and freeboard helps pushing > the bow down. > > Marek Fluder > C&C24 "Emilie" > Hamilton Harbour, ON > > > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Mark G > <mjg...@comcast.net<mailto:mjg...@comcast.net>> wrote: > >> >> After 6 years of experimenting on an infrequent basis I was finally >> able to easily and repeatedly heave-to my 25 Mk1 this year. I sail >> with a 135-140% Genoa on a furler. On the day everything clicked it >> was furled to about 100-110%. Since then, I have made furling the >> Genoa to 100-110% the first step of heaving-to. It makes sense to me >> that, since heaving-to is all about balancing the sails, sail area >> forward would be a significant factor. But on a boat without a >> furler this can't be accomplished without a sail change, etc. So I'm >> thinking the same thing might be accomplished by positioning the main >> sail with the sheet or the traveler. Can anybody weigh in on their >> experience, particularly with the 25 Mk1? >> >> Mark >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> -- phone +401 965 5260 _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260
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