I know the list must have dealt with this extensively, so pardon the re-hash. I am replacing my diesel engine and possibly with an electric and want to get a handle on prop size.
Is there a formula where you enter the displacement, DWL, RPM and HP and get a prop diameter and pitch? ALEX GIANNELIA Phone (416) 203-9858 Fax (416) 203-9843 Cell (416) 529-0070 email: a...@airsensing.com WEB: www.airsensing.com -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: February 28, 2013 1:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 85, Issue 119 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Considering a New Genoa (jim aridas) 2. Re: PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin (Tim Goodyear) 3. Re: Sailmakers (jim aridas) 4. Re: PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin (Dennis C.) 5. Re: Water Pump delayed start (Terry) 6. Re: Aluminum toerails - cosmetic improvement (Martin DeYoung) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:24:35 -0500 From: jim aridas <jarid...@msn.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa Message-ID: <bay173-w40ead24125553f89e2df696...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Tom,For 1350, seems really cheap. Honestly how does the sail look, or work?Wonder if they do .75 oz. Hey for that money I wouldn't be that upset when the crew punches a hole in it, compared to a new sail from the big guysNorth, UK, Haarstik, etcJim Galaxy 34' Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:10:57 -0800 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com From: t...@sv-alera.com Subject: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa I picked up a new asym from National for Jubilee, our 35 MK 1. Dirk used to work at the Rolly Tasker loft in SE Asia, where a bunch of sail companies actually have theirs made. So he knows the operation very well and was great to deal with. Also, his price point was the best. If you are thinking about going to a 2nd tier manufacturer, he's the best person to deal with, IMHO. Here's his quote... Thank you for your inquiry regarding a new spinnaker for your C&C 35 mk 1 (I = 44, J = 14.5) Custom built in 1.5oz nylon, tri-radial cut in yellow, a new asymmetrical spinnaker would be priced at $1,349 Pre-installed in a dousing sock add $335 Dirk Sharland National Sail Supply, LLC (Rolly Tasker Sails, Florida) 26092 Withrow Rd Brooksville, FL 34601 1-800-611-3823 fax 813-200-1385 from outside of US 352-540-9101 www.nationalsail.com Tom B Tom Buscaglia SV Alera C&C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't want to offend anyone, but boats sailing with spinnaker were more experienced, better prepared and better handled than those without, so I think the right performance won... Our fleet varied from Farr 40 with professional crew to J/22's. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 (currently waiting for an insurance estimate for a new pedestal, stern rail, instrument pod...) Branford, CT On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:03 AM, <cenel...@aol.com> wrote: > As a PHRF racer, I realize that assigning a single rating for a boat > sailing in various conditions of wind, waves, etc. is a very poor > substitute for a more complicated and more expensive solution such as IRC, > etc. etc. > > Adding modifications to this single number to account for sail > configurations such as spin or non-spin is IMHO similar to adding lipstick > to a pig. > > However, for overall winner determinations, a +15 seconds per mile > adjustment to the rating when sailing non-spin has been used in some local > distance races in order to award a winner. This seems to work reasonably > for our club racing--after all this is club racing and our PHRF certificate > costs all of ~ $20 per year! > > However, I have also raced in events where a combined trophy was awarded > where there were spin, non-spin and cruiser fleets. In these events, > sometimes the overall award was given to the winner of the most competitive > class. IIRC this class was defined as the class in the fleet whose > corrected times were the closest or with the smallest spread. Presumably > this means that the first boat in this class had to work very hard to stay > there. > > This may not work in your case but it is another way to combine the > fleets--whether it is less arbitrary than a single number adjustment is > another matter. > > FWIW, > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > C&C 36XL/kcb > > > > > cenel...@aol.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:46 am > Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin > > I help out with a local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo. > http://www.piratesonpungo.org We are planning to do a couple of special > trophies this year, one of which will go to the C&C sailboat that finishes > first in the long pursuit race on the first day of sailing. While we plan > to have both spin and non-spin classes for the PHRF boats in the regatta > (with sub classes to keep the competition fair for all size boats), we want > the special awards to span both spin and non-spin. > > NCPHRF, unlike some other regional PHRF groups, does not grant different > spin and non-spin ratings. And the PHRF base ratings that we use for a lot > of the casual sailors presume a spinnaker. > > So we?re thinking about creating an adjusted ?NON-SPIN? rating for the > boats in the special trophy groups that will let them compete relatively > fairly with the spin boats in the same special group. > > I?ve been told that one of the clubs in Oriental, NC adds an arbitrary 11 > seconds to the NCPHRF spin rating to get a ?non-spin? rating ? regardless > of the size or type of boat. That doesn?t sound like it would be fair to > the smaller boats like the 24, 25, or 27, and it might be generous for the > larger boats like my own 38 or Charlie Nelson?s 36XL. > > During the past couple of weeks there was some discussion of how various > clubs and local groups calculate a ?non-spin? rating that lets all boats > race in one class. I seem to recall one message that indicated 10% or 15% > of the normal rating was added for a boat racing non-spin. But I think > there were other methods, too. > > So the question for the wisdom of the list is this: What is a fair way to > adjust the normal PHRF rating (which presumes a spinnaker) for a boat that > is racing non-spin? > > Thanks for your input. > > > Rick Brass > Washington, NC > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo > Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Funny how small the sailing world is. He is a great guy btw. I have known him for humm... Wow since 1988 when I got my first "big " sail boat (28 Columbia ). I have raced many times with him over the years. Really knows his stuff. Actually he sold C&C boats before I knew him! I am going with 3DL for a 155% ,replacing a previous north sail,this time with taffeta on one side to hold up better. They have great discounts on 3DL till mar 1st. I am also ordering a #2 (135%) just haven't decided on material. Might just go with a norlam material . Its about a 1k difference and I don't think a performance difference I will notice. Mainsails... My boat's sail plan has a tall skinny main which was the design of the time. I believe the 34R is similar as well. Ron's advice, when he designed my main, was to go with norlam. He felt the main does not really drive the boat and 3DL would just be overkill. After 5 seasons , the main still performs well,held its shape, and looks good. Now if you had your mind set on 3DL don't let me sway your decision. I had a 3DL on my Pearson 30 and loved it. The nice part of the norlam is its easier to flake on the boom. Or should I say I'm easier on my crew with the norlam at flaking time! Chuck, feel free to drop my name to Ron when you speak again. I look forward to seeing you in AC. Also my club Metedeconk River YC is on board this year to help sponsor . Also my good friend Jim Walsh will be PRO. He runs a great race! Jim Aridas Galaxy Sent from my iPad On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: Congratulations!! Did Ron Laneve from North Sails ask you to mention that to me? I'm considering a new mainsail myself, and we talked just yesterday. Are you ordering 3DL? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: "Jim Aridas" <jarid...@msn.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:44:03 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat Oh in staying with the thread.... Dropping $9000 at the local North loft on Monday.Yes Chuck we are crazy! JimGalaxyBrielle, NJBtw just tooling up for AC race week! Sent from my iPad On Feb 23, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Ed Dooley <edoo...@madriver.com> wrote: I look at it being cheaper than marriage counseling.And luckily here on Lake Champlain in Vermont you can put a mooring inwherever you want for free. It's regulated by your access, so our mooring is in Converse Bay in Charlotte, which has a state fishing/boating access ramp. We're allowed to park in the lot overnight, and we have their one dock to tie up the dinghy when we need to. Moslt of our sailing friends that aren't near us or in the 2 nearby marinas moor at Kingsland Bay state park where they're allowed to keep their dinghies on shore at the park. Ed On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: Agree, it's expensive just owning a boat. We're all crazy! But in a good way somehow? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:22:37 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat I pay $3,000/yr just for my slip. A lot of cruises are a lot less than that. Not that I would go on one for free - just sayin' Joe Della Barba -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSteveH Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:28 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat Agree except for the costs of cruises. I'm fairly sure the cost of maintaining, improving, slipping and hauling my boat annually is about equivalent to one person on one decent cruise (incl airfare). BTW John, what is your hull#. Mine is #442. Cheers, Steve Hood S/V Diamond Girl C&C 34 Lions Head ON ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:09:30 -0500 From: "John and Maryann Read" <johnpr...@comcast.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat Message-ID: <00a501ce10f5$78d1a440$6a74ecc0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Well and truly said John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:50 AM To: Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat You wake up, quietly get in the dinghy with the dogs, push off and drift 50 feet away before starting the outboard, and head to shore. The dogs pee while you get the morning paper and some coffee from the coffee shop. Heading back out to the mooring field with the morning sun flooding the anchorage with an orange glow you gently climb back aboard to surprise your still sleeping wife with the treats from shore and think you wouldn?t be anywhere else for ANY amount of money. Or the sane people realize they could go on a cruise ship or other expensive vacation two or three times a year for what it costs to run the boat. So we the not-quite-right sail on and the sheeple get herded here and there on the latest discount tour to some tourist hell. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA >________________________________ > From: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:41 AM >Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin > > >I help out with a? local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo.? >http://www.piratesonpungo.org?? We are planning to do a couple of special >trophies this year, one of which will go to the C&C sailboat that finishes >first in the long pursuit race on the first day of sailing. While we plan to >have both spin and non-spin classes for the PHRF boats in the regatta (with >sub classes to keep the competition fair for all size boats), we want the >special awards to span both spin and non-spin. >? >NCPHRF, unlike some other regional PHRF groups, ?does not grant different spin >and non-spin ratings. And the PHRF base ratings that we use for a lot of the >casual sailors presume a spinnaker.? >? >So we?re thinking about creating an adjusted ??NON-SPIN? rating for the boats >in the special trophy groups that will let them compete relatively fairly with >the spin boats in the same special group. >? >I?ve been told that one of the clubs in Oriental, NC adds an arbitrary 11 >seconds to the NCPHRF spin rating to get a ?non-spin? rating ? regardless of >the size or type of boat. That doesn?t sound like it would be fair to the >smaller boats like the 24, 25, or 27, and it might be generous for the larger >boats like my own 38 or Charlie Nelson?s 36XL. >? >During the past couple of weeks there was some discussion of how various clubs >and local groups calculate a ?non-spin? rating that lets all boats race in one >class. I seem to recall one message that indicated 10% or 15% of the normal >rating was added for a boat racing non-spin. But I think there were other >methods, too. >? >So the question for the wisdom of the list is this: What is a fair way to >adjust the normal PHRF rating (which presumes a spinnaker) for a boat that is >racing non-spin? >? >Thanks for your input. >? >? >Rick Brass >Washington, NC >? >? >? >? >_______________________________________________ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill Coleman C&C 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:13 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Water Pump delayed start I had that problem on a Swan I used to deliver; you turn on the faucet then wait for the water. ..drove me up the wall, but never did figure out what was the problem. Maybe a good idea to call Jabsco and talk to a tech, they must have had that problem before. When you find out, please share with us. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: Terry, Is the problem that the motor does not come on or that it comes on but no water comes out? Joel Sent from my iPad On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:05 PM, Terry <tj...@comcast.net> wrote: Model # 12884557 From: Rich Knowles Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Water Pump delayed start There are a number of versions of this pump including some automatic. What is the precise model number, please! Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-27, at 19:24, "Terry" <tj...@comcast.net> wrote: It is a Jabsco par-max plus 12 volt. From: Rich Knowles Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:56 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Water Pump delayed start What is the make and model? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-27, at 18:48, "Terry" <tj...@comcast.net> wrote: Hello, I have just installed a new fresh water pump. The new pump does not come on right way as it is supposed to, instead it takes 15 to 45 seconds for it to start. I thought it was a faulty pressure switch so I took the first new pump back and installed a second new pump. The same problem occurs. Any suggestions as to what the problem may be?? 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It is beyond the scope of our "in the water" repairs to remove the toe rails and have them re-anodized. I read somewhere that BBQ paint held up well. I am a little concerned that epoxy and urethane based paints will be too brittle. I use the holey rail often for snatch blocks, staysail tacks, parked halyards, and fender / mooring lines so I want a coating that will not chip from contact. Anyone have recent experience with painting, especially with the current offerings from the high tech coating companies? Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:20 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Aluminum toerails - cosmetic improvement Since the original anodised finish consists of dye (and pigment?) adhering to oxide formed on the surface of the aluminum, a permanent black magic marker might help to restore some of the colour. The only tricky thing might be if you were to follow this with a wax product that uses alcohol as a solvent, since that is the solvent used in the permanent magic markers. Some wax products use petroleum distillates which will not dissolve alcohol soluble dyes, and therefore would not affect a magic marker touch up. It would be easy enough to try anyway. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Aluminum toerails - cosmetic improvement No idea if you can wax over Penetrol. Sounds like time for a test. I just went out to the storage and found some Mother's Back to Black auto trim polish. I put that and some Meguiar's Premium Marine Wax in my truck. Maybe I'll give them a shot next week. Since I painted the boat, I don't need the wax anymore. Might as well try it on the toerail. Dennis C. 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