Thanks - I'm in Centerport.  The Sabre 's rating is all over the map these 
days.  I'm seeing it upward of 120 in some regions for the WK version which is 
probably a more realistic number.  

John




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On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Handicaps *should* show you the difference in performance.  These are from 
> PHRF NE.  You should be able to compare the 34+ and Sabre 386 from your 
> experience (apparently fairly similar).  My experience sailing the 35-3 
> (another Rob Ball design) is that windward performance is great; reaching and 
> downwind are weaker points (but not bad, mind you).  Where in LIS are you 
> based?
>  
> Tim
> Mojito
> C&C 35-3
> Branford, CT
>  
> Boat
> PHRF NE Base
> C&C 37/40R
> 63
> C&C 37/40XL
> 66
> C&C 115
> 66
> C&C 37/40+
> 75
> C&C 34/36R
> 81
> C&C 34/36XL
> 84
> Sabre 386
> 84
> C&C 34/36
> 87
> Sabre 386 WK
> 93
> C&C 38-3
> 102
> C&C 35-3 (my boat)
> 114
> C&C 38-3 CB
> 117
>  
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:33 PM, j...@svpaws.net <j...@svpaws.net> wrote:
>> Any thoughts on the late 80's vintage 38? I'm thinking about one for a full 
>> restoration and ultimately to be used for coastal cruising (long island 
>> sound), casual phrf racing and limited offshore runs (Bermuda, BVI, etc).
>> 
>> A little background.  I currently sail a Sabre 386 but am uninspired by the 
>> performance.  Build quality is great.  I've owned 2 Rob Ball C &C's in the 
>> past, each for about 7 years - a 34+ and a 51xl.
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