Hello Jorge, Nice talking to you the other day.
There are a few ways water can get inside our 37 XL. One we learned the hard way is the head sink drain has to be closed before doing any sailing in heavy conditions where the boat may spend extended time heeled to port more than 20 degrees. Heeled to port past 20 degrees the head sink is below the waterline and, as there is no check valve in the sink drain (nor would I recommend one, hair and all that) the sea water flows in and washes your bathroom for you. Both times we let this happen, we stayed on that tack long enough to bail the water out so it didn't flood the main cabin but some water eventually gets down into the bilge. As we have a keel stepped mast, some rain water makes it down the mast into the bilge and the bulge pump never gets the last 3/4" or so. That water can slosh out of the bilge when heeled way over and then gets caught in the "spider" web grid of internal hull reinforcement. some of those area do not have limber holes as they are only 1" to 2" deep so the water just has to evaporate (or slosh back out on the next tack). Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin S/V Salazar - Can 54955 C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67 Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia On 20 June 2013 20:19, Gomez, Jorge K <jorge.k.go...@unilever.com> wrote: > Thanks Michael,**** > > ** ** > > Appreciate your feedback. Actually this particular boat that we are > looking into had a backstay attachment failure at some point (not > catastrophic) as the starboard backstay chain plate attachment point has > been repaired….**** > > ** ** > > Good to hear that despite the issues you appreciate the sailing qualities > of the model.**** > > ** ** > > Do you know the source of the water that pooled under the floorboards?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks again.**** > > ** ** > > *Jorge ***** > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael > Cotton > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:44 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Looking for 37/40 +, R and XL owners**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Michael Cotton <mpc51...@yahoo.com> > *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:29 PM > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Looking for 37/40 +, R and XL owners**** > > ** ** > > I owned a '90 37+. The survey found extensive blisters on the bottom. The > boat was in the Chesapeake from new until my purchase in '08. 5/16 was > peeled off the bottom and a new epoxy/vinylester was put on. Water would > pool in various place under the floorboards instead of draining into the > bilge low point. The most serious problem I encountered was the port > backstay chainplate's failure. It did not pull all the way through but > almost. We were in choppy seas, 20 to 25kts of wind with a reefed main, > 135 headsail and 1200 psi on the backstay when the failure occurred. The > surveyor had warned me about this weakness. At the time of the survey he > said they were fine. The design or quality control of the backstay > chainplate is pitiful. On the plus side the boat sailed beautifully. My > previous boat was a Beneteau First 405. I lost it to a fire. Given a choice > I would not buy the C&C again. I would buy the Beneteau. > > Michael Cotton > ex partner C&C 37+ > S/V Blue Pearl**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "Gomez, Jorge K" <jorge.k.go...@unilever.com> > *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:59 AM > *Subject:* Stus-List Looking for 37/40 +, R and XL owners**** > > > Hello C&Cers, > > My wife and I are seriously considering a C&C 37/40 XL with a 8ft fin keel > for upcoming double handed cruising and full crewed racing in the Caribbean > (primarily windward and leeward islands) > > From our impressions after a boat visit and short test sail the boat seems > to fit the bill however, as part of the pre-offer due diligence and > research we would like to chat with current and past owners of these fine > boats to gather insight and learn from their experience. We want to hear > it all, the good the bad and the ugly. > > If you can spare a few minutes, we would be most grateful. Please send me > a private message and I will be happy to either call you or exchange emails. > > Our biggest questions/concerns in our mind are around: > -Cockpit comfort for long passages/crossings > -Aft cabin ventilation at anchor in hot climates > -How to properly survey the boat given balsa core and Kevlar mix...heard > lots of different opinions here and it is our major concern at the moment. > -Hull to deck joint, any issues here after 20+ years? > -Sailing behavior in chop going to weather (wet/dry/pounding/hobby horsing) > -How does it behave once you load the bow with a 45lb anchor, a windlass > and the 140ft of chain that we will need to cruise in the Caribbean > (200lbs+) > -Behavior downwind under a full kite in 15 to 25 knots and a following sea. > -Would it sail to its rating in typical Caribbean conditions of average 12 > to 25 knots and moderate chop? (yes, we will junk the big anchor and chain > for racing...) Our competition in the Caribbean will be a mixed fleet of > J35, J95, J105, J109, Dufour 40, Bene 36.7 and 40.7, Sigma 41, Elan 37, etc > and we may rate with a 135% as our largest headsail...looking for advise > here... > -Your experience > > Since the hull is the same for all the versions (+, R and XL) we would > like to hear from owners of all models..racers and cruisers. > > Grateful in advance for your time and advise, > > Jorge > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > **** > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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