If you kneel as I described, it is not more dangerous than simply being in the cockpit. No need to undo your tether either. Might not work on your boat but it does on many if not most. If you would rather use the head that is your choice, but it is not the only safe choice.
I am very safety conscious and wear an inflatable harness as a rule rather than the exception. No one ever plans to fall overboard, and most drownings occur in calm weather. I am the first and often the only one to clip on the tether. Mine is often the only boat in the fleet where people are wearing life jackets. It is like doing up the seat belt in you car as far as I am concerned. Just do it. One area I need to improve on is in the rigging of jack lines. Don't do it often enough. I nearly drowned when I was a kid and it was an experience that I have no interest in repeating. On the other hand I used to work with a guy that got hit by lightning while at home in his basement. There is no such a thing as perfectly safe, but we can adjust the probabilities. No one gets out alive. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Bill Coleman Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:22 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odours You don’t need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. Bill Coleman C&C 39 You only make the stats once. Rich On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:38, Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca> wrote: Everybody I know (male) pisses over the side, weather and audience conditions permitting. As for falling overboard, on my boat and most of similar size and construction you can kneel in the cockpit on the leeward side and lean against the stern rail. No danger of falling out, and with even a small amount of heel there is no need to piss on the side of the boat. I seldom bother with cockpit cushions, especially when under way, so I bought a rubber kneeling pad from Princess Auto to make it a bit easier on the knees. Should have tied a line to it. Have to get another one now. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:57 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odors Probably:) Drowning stats are against you too. Rich On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:21, "Pete Shelquist" <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net> wrote: “Average person uses toilet 5 times a day”… is my boat the only one with guys peeing over the side? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Head odors Okay, I spoke to Peggie Hall last night and she asked; "Do you have anything against black hoses?" I said, "Not really." She said "oh good! use the trident 101 hoses. I don't know of a single case where they have ever had a permeation issue." I guess I'm going to have black hoses...I guess I could paint them if the admiral has an issue with them... She also suggested a 24 gallon tank at least. She said, on average, a manual toilet uses .6 gal/flush and the average person uses the toilet at leas 5 times per day. So, at a minimum your putting 3 gal/day/person in the the tank. For 2 people you get 6 gal/day so that tank will not even last 4 days because you don't want to be filling it to capacity. So, we (she) decided the v-birth would be the best location for the new tank. I'll be heading down to the boat with the Ronco catalog in hand to figure out what the biggest tank I can fit under the v-birth. All in all, it will be a very simple system. Manual toilet (she said the Raritan PHC would have been here recommendation) to a Y valve diverting the waste either directly overboard or into the tank. A 1" vent, as far forward as I can get it. A pump out and potentially, a seperate fitting on the tank for a manual overboard tank drain with a manual pump. The project moves on. Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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