I ordered the MMO from Moyer Marine when I bought some parts for my A4. Moyer is the authority on the A4 and he swears by the stuff. Either because he has an interest in it or because he truly believes it is beneficial in the A4. Either way, it's a good idea to lube up those cylinders and valves before mothballing the engine for the winter to prevent seizing and stuck valves. So as far as I'm concerned, MMO is as good as any fogging or engine oil, all of which will work.
Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:10 PM, <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's on the shelf marked "Snake Oil! > sam :-) > > *From: *dwight > *Sent: *Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:45 AM > *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Reply To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Winterizing > > Where did you find the Marvel Mystery oil…Canadian Tire used to > have it but no longer > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan > Plavsa > *Sent:* November 27, 2013 10:12 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winterizing > > > > I remove my t-stat, then I run anti-freeze through the motor by > disconnecting the intake hose from the seacock and shoving it in the > antifreeze bottle. I put a huge bucket under the exhaust and when > anti-freeze starts coming out of the exhaust I'm done. No messing around > running the motor and complicated hose runs. Mine is a raw water cooled A4. > I put a few drops of marvel mystery oil in each spark plug hole and turn > the engine over manually a few times to lubricate the valves and I'm done. > In the spring I reverse the process and pull freshwater through the motor > and catch the anti-freeze in the same bucket before launch. > > > > Steve > > Suhana, C&C 32 > > Toronto > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:52 AM, dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If you don’t run the engine after the oil change the new oil will just sit > in the sump all winter long…best to give her a run and get the new stuff > where it’s needed…how long you have to run to achieve that I am not sure > but I change oil for the winter storage before my last trip to the marina, > for me that’s about a 20 minute run under power. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * > Indigo > *Sent:* November 26, 2013 11:59 PM > > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winterizing > > > > I understand the need to get the temperature up in order to get the old > oil out, but why do I need to run it up to temp with the new oil? I have > just been turning the engine over for a minute or less to get the oil > circulated. (Engine block is still warm- but certainly not up to temp > > > > -- > > Jonathan > > Indigo C&C 35III > > SOUTHPORT CT > > > On Nov 26, 2013, at 14:47, dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Chuck > > Yes warm the oil you want to change out before draining the sump but it is > equally important to run the engine up to temp for a while on the new oil > > > Dwight Veinot > > Alianna > C&C 35 MKII > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Yeah Dwight, > I guess you are right. I didn't have to but I like to warm up the engine > oil before draining that, so I've always run the engine to temperature > before winterizing. > I draw in the pink stuff, then hand pump the oil from the crancase. I > have a routine; ice box, foot pump that into the sink, do the second sink, > then the head, then last is the bilge and the two elec bilge pumps and the > manual bilge pump. This year I captured most of the antifreeze from the > pumps and will use again next year. > > > > Chuck > *Resolute* > 1990 C&C 34R > Atlantic City, NJ > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"dwight veinot" <dwight...@gmail.com> > *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > *Sent: *Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:07:49 AM > > > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Winterizing > > Chuck > > If I remember you have a Universal M4-30. Is yours your water cooled and > that is why you got the engine up to 190, to make sure the thermostat > opened. No need to do that if your engine has a heat exchanger like mine > does > > > Dwight Veinot > > Alianna > C&C 35 MKII > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > I tried the Toronto Bucket Method today. Nice to have that option. It > works. It is environmentally friendly since it captures antifreeze > escaping the exhaust. > > My marina hauled my boat today, but the water was turned off everywhere > because of the risk of freezeup for the last few weeks. It works. It is > environmentally friendly since it captures antifreeze escaping the exhaust. > But it was hard to get the engine to draw from the bucket until I primed > the 15' hose w antifreeze using a funnel. Had to run for about twenty > minutes to get the temp up to 190, to be sure the thermostat was open. I > started w 4 1/2 gallons of pink RV antifreeze. The engine sucked up about > 1 1/2 gallons. Used the rest to winterize the ice box drain, foot pump, > sink traps, and bilge pumps. > > Love the list for new ideas! > > > > Chuck > *Resolute* > 1990 C&C 34R > Atlantic City, NJ > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"dwight veinot" <dwight...@gmail.com> > *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:26:30 AM > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Winterizing > > > > Another 35 MKII owner on the list...only 147 of that design ever built, > they are senior citizens by some standards but many are still active and > bringing lots of sailing pleasure to their owners, > > There's no reason to change a good practice, 21 years is way long enough > to prove it's a good one > > > Dwight Veinot > > Alianna > C&C 35 MKII > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Ken Rodmell <moo...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > On my 35 Mk II, I’ve been using the same system for 21 years. It can get > very cold up here in Toronto and I’ve had no problems. > > I hang a bucket containing about a gallon of the antifreeze mix from the > stern rail directly below the exhaust pipe,. A hose is led from the bucket > through the cockpit to the water intake on the Perkins 4-108 engine. It is > connected by a plastic elbow. > > I run the engine until it reaches operating temperature which takes a few > minutes. I use a tester 2 or three times to check the water/anti freeze mix > as there is always some water left in the system and I might have to add > more anti freeze to bring it up to specs. > > If my winter cover is already on, I open it up while the engine is running > and make sure I have lots of ventilation as some exhaust gasses may reach > the cockpit. > > I shut off the engine, Take the hose off, then remove the impeller and > store it in vegetable oil. > > In the spring, I put about a tablespoonful of fresh diesel oil into the > air intake and turn the engine over 3 or 4 times without starting it. Can > anyone on the list who has more engineering knowledge tell me why this > might not be a good idea? > > Thanks in advance for your comments. > > Ken Rodmell > Ward’s Island, Toronto > Toronto > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3629/6368 - Release Date: 11/26/13 > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3629/6371 - Release Date: 11/27/13 > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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