I wonder if a couple crisp $100s with your papers would equal compliance.
On Saturday, December 21, 2013, Jim Watts wrote:
> Sorry for the double copy, I wish email had an "edit" function after the
> fact.
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> On 21 December 2013 08:55, Jim Watts
> <paradigmat...@gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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> > wrote:
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>> This from Richard Spindler - Latitude 38
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>> 338 FOREIGN YACHTS IMPOUNDED IN MEXICO. A sub-agency of Hacienda
>> (Mexico's IRS) has decided they will take 45 days to four months to decide
>> whether to fine, confiscate or 'liberate" the 338 foreign boats from 12
>> marinas, including our catamaran Profligate, that they have impounded for
>> the most ridiculous — misspellings or typos — or non-existent reasons.
>> While the boats aren't chained to the docks, they are not to leave their
>> berths until the decisions have been rendered, and if they do leave, the
>> marina must report them to the government agency. Think how wonderful this
>> is for a couple who has worked and dreamed and saved for 10 years for such
>> a cruise, and are now stuck in one marina. As you might expect, the
>> marinas, Mexico Tourism, and others are horrified. Please spread the word
>> as far as you can. For more details, read today's 'Lectronic Latitude. And
>> we hate to tell you, Kevin and Marcie, but your cat is one of them. I wish
>> this was a joke, but it's not.
>>
>>
>>
>> and
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>> FLEE MEXICO ON YOUR BOAT? In response to our report that 338 foreign
>> yachts worth tens of million of dollars have been impounded in Mexico, and
>> their owners will have to wait anywhere from 45 to 120 days to learn if
>> they will be fined or if their boats will be "liberated" or confiscated,
>> we've been getting asked a lot of questions. Mainly, how to keep one's boat
>> from getting on the list. First, we want to clarify what we mean by
>> "impounded". The 338 boats we've been told are being held are in what's
>> called "precautionary embargo", which so far hasn't meant any boats chained
>> to the dock. But it does mean that boats can't legally leave the marina,
>> and if they do, the harbormaster must report them to AGACE, the Mexican
>> agency causing all the problem. That would mean big trouble. In addition,
>> the port captains have the list, and if your boat's name is on that list,
>> you can't clear out. So how do you stay off the list? 1) Don't have your
>> boat in Mexico. We're not joking, because having all your paperwork in
>> order doesn't mean your boat won't get on the list. We have the same
>> paperwork and documents for Profligate being in Mexico that we've had for
>> 17 years and all are current. But it's made no difference. Our only 'crime'
>> is that we weren't around when the AGACE people came by asking for papers
>> the first time. It made no difference that we presented all the necessary
>> papers when AGACE came around again a week later. They smiled very nicely,
>> said everything was good — and still kept our name on the list. We are far
>> from alone in this status. Blue, the big J/Boat, and many, many boats are
>> in the same situation. 2) The second strategy is to stay out of marinas,
>> particularly ones that haven't been checked by AGACE yet. Why? Because
>> based on what's already happened, if you're not on your boat 24 hours a day
>> with all the proper paperwork, and everything spelled correctly and no
>> numbers transposed, your boat is likely to be put on the impound list. To
>> our knowledge, no boats at anchor have been checked, nor do we believe
>> AGACE has the boats to check boats at anchor. 3) If your boat hasn't been
>> impounded, should you leave Mexico immediately? It's hard to say. We like
>> to think that this is a horrible blunder of the part of a sub agency of
>> Hacienda that will quickly be reigned in once the greater part of
>> government realizes the terrible damage they are doing the image of Mexico
>> as a safe and secure place for foreigners. But you never know, as
>> government agencies in Mexico often have a lot of autonomy. Let's put it
>> this way, if Profligate was in Turtle Bay and wasn't on the list, we'd be
>> back in California by Christmas. This may sound alarmist to some, but when
>> one of your biggest assets has been taken from your control for absolutely
>> no good reason for perhaps four months or longer, you get religion quick.
>> 4) What if your boat is in a marina and you're up in the States and weren't
>> planning to come down for a few months? Oh man, we don't know what we'd do.
>> It would cost a fortune to move her, and where would you move her to? What
>> makes this situation all the more vexing is that we've never received any
>> formal notice that our boat is on the list, and there is absolutely nobody
>> at a local AGACE office to appeal to. Indeed, AGACE people who checked
>> boats in Banderas Bay came all the way from Guadalajara. The best Christmas
>> present anyone with a boat in Mexico can hope for is that this nightmare
>> ends quickly. After all, think of all the people who planned to spend the
>> winter and then cross to the South Pacific. They have to live in constant
>> fear if they stay in Mexico — assuming their boat isn't already on the
>> list, in which case they could be in limbo until late April — that their
>> boat will end up on
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