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>   1. Re:  Scouting report on old C&C 38s ([email protected])
>   2. Re:  Xronia Polla! (Frederick G Street)
>   3. Re:  was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my thoughts about
>      V40s) (Wally Bryant)
>   4. Re:  was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my thoughts    about
>      V40s) (Rich Knowles)
>   5. Re:  was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my thoughts    about
>      V40s) (Steve Thomas)
>   6.  scouting report on old C&C 38 (Jim Lynch)
>   7. Re:  scouting report on old C&C 38 (Rich Knowles)
>   8.  APS Sale (Joel Aronson)
>   9. Re:  was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my thoughts about
>      V40s) (Wally Bryant)
>  10. Re:  ; institutional memory request; 1985 C&C Rendezvous at
>      Block Island (Richard N. Bush)
>  11.  methods of self-rescue? (Eric Frank)
>  12. Re:  ; institutional memory request; 1985 C&C Rendezvous at
>      Block Island (Curtis)
>  13. Re:  ; institutional memory request; 1985 C&C Rendezvous at
>      Block Island (Curtis)
>  14. Re:  methods of self-rescue? (Chuck S)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 12:03:13 -0500
> From: <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Scouting report on old C&C 38s
> Message-ID: <20140101120313.ZW9OO.545322.imail@eastrmwml302>
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> I have to agree with Rick the zealot. 'I've had my 1976 MK I for 12 years now 
> been in a couple of blows and its a very capable boat.
> Had a Catalina 30 before and the wife says she feels safe in this 38 when it 
> gets ugly. I wouldn't fly the chute in 20kn true so those issues never seemed 
> to matter just sail reasonably. I've had some issues with things that had to 
> be fixed but all in all I'm glad we bought "Liberty". Great looking boat and 
> it sails just like Rick said. I would not however consider myself a zealot I 
> am however kind of ......fanatical !!!  Feel free to contact me offline for 
> more totally unbiased opinion.
> 
>                                                   Gary Kolc
>                                                   1976 38' MK I
> 
> ---- Rick Brass <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> If I told you what I think about my 38 mk1, you?d think me a C&C zealot.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wait a second. I?ve owned a C&C for 20 years next June (plus a couple of 
>> other C&C designed boats).  I?ve belonged to about 4 previous iterations of 
>> Stu?s C&C list (and recall when Stu originally set up the Photo Album so 
>> we?d have a way to share pictures of our boats). And I still have my burgees 
>> from the C&C Sailing Assn. and C&C Sailing -Chesapeake Bay. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe I AM a zealot.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyhow, the short answer to your query, Jim, is that  the boat is built like 
>> a tank. It goes to windward like a witch. It can carry a lot of canvas in 
>> some pretty rough seas. And (I can already hear the shrill howls) ? along 
>> with the 33 mk1 ? is just about the prettiest sailboat ever made. Of course, 
>> that makes some sense because Rob Ball told us up in Mystic that the 38 was 
>> a stretched redesign of the 33.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The IOR stern has not been a problem; I?ve broached only once in over 10 
>> years of sailing her. Course I don?t have a death wish strong enough to make 
>> me fly the chute in 20 knots true wind. Hell, hull speed is only about 8 
>> knots and all the HP in the world won?t get you to 12 unless you are 
>> surfing. Now, the IOR stern can make steering an athletic challenge with a 6 
>> ft quartering sea running (though a 6 ft quartering swell isn?t a biggie).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The downsides include the fact that you will never need berthing for 8 
>> unless you are doing fully crewed offshore races ? of course several of us 
>> have installed cabinets in the pilot berths under the side decks. You can?t 
>> sleep in the T shaped cockpit because of the short seats and bridge deck 
>> traveler ? but that is what foredeck hammocks are for. The ice box is over 7 
>> cubic feet, so you need a lot of ice or refrigeration capacity ? but then it 
>> holds a lot of beer. The portlights don?t open ? so you will need to think 
>> about opening ports or some added ventilation. The 20 gallon fuel tank 
>> limits your motoring range to about 150 NM ? I carry extra fuel on deck when 
>> cruising.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It?s an older design that has some warts. It is definitely not suited as a 
>> condo on the water like a .Catalina or Beneteau. But when you pass a J Boat 
>> or a Sawn that cost 5 times what your C&C 38 did, it sort of seems 
>> worthwhile.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If I win big in the Mega Millions this evening, would I buy a different 
>> boat? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe. I?ve always thought the Swan 63/65 is at least as pretty as my 38 and 
>> has a lot more room. And my Admiral is quite taken with the accommodations 
>> in catamarans, so maybe a Gunboat 50. And I had a friend with a Bavaria 44 
>> or 46 that was a great condo while still being a really nice sailboat. But I 
>> guess I?d have to think about it for a bit first.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Guess I am a zealot.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Brass
>> 
>> Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1
>> 
>> la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1
>> 
>> Washington, NC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> [email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 9:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Stus-List Scouting report on old C&C 38s
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello gang,
>> 
>> I?m just about to close the deal on a 1977 C&C 38 Mark II. The boat is 
>> updated and loaded for cruising. I love its lines and the way it sails?at 
>> least on my sea trial. And I?ve had a crush on 1970s C&Cs since I was a 
>> teenager.  It surveyed well but I?m still wishing I could hear from more 
>> people familiar with racing and cruising these old 38s.
>> 
>> I enjoy racing but my primary intention with this boat is to cruise it in 
>> Puget Sound and in and around Vancouver Island. For my tastes, It seems like 
>> a nice roomy fast cruiser. From listening to a few racers, one potential 
>> concern is it might broach too easily with the chute up in a breeze. While I 
>> don?t intend to fly one often, I?d obviously hope it?s not too unstable 
>> downwind. I know some IOR designs are notorious but I?m not always clear 
>> whether to blame the design or the skipper.
>> 
>> I saw where a 38 of this vintage, GADZOOKS, was first overall in a race from 
>> Massachusetts to Bermuda in 2011. And I?ve seen where another old 38 
>> circumnavigated. Both of which should give me faith. But I?d still love to 
>> hear from any of you who can give me a scouting report on how this boat 
>> sails on different points of sail in different conditions as well as any 
>> other insights you're willing to offer.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, and happy new year to you all.
>> 
>> Jim Lynch
>> 
>> Olympia, WA.
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 11:16:57 -0600
> From: Frederick G Street <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Xronia Polla!
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Stelios, our Greek friend -- we haven't heard from you in ages!  So you're 
> still lurking here?
> 
> Frederick G Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Stelios <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 17:21:27 +0000
> From: Wally Bryant <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my
>    thoughts about V40s)
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> PS.  I believe that I recently said that if I ever bought another 
> project boat I would rename it 'Chucky.'
> 
> "Hi!  I'm Chucky!  I'm your friend for life!"
> 
> Boats are like women.  Be careful what you sign up for.
> 
> Happy New Year,
> Wal
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 13:36:30 -0400
> From: Rich Knowles <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,    "[email protected]"
>    <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my
>    thoughts    about V40s)
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> They're all the same. They just look different. 
> 
> Rich
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 13:21, Wally Bryant <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Boats are like women.  Be careful what you sign up for.
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:09:43 -0500
> From: Steve Thomas <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>,    <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my
>    thoughts    about V40s)
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
> Too true.
> 
> Steve.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Wally
> Bryant
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 12:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my
> thoughts about V40s)
> 
> 
> PS.  I believe that I recently said that if I ever bought another 
> project boat I would rename it 'Chucky.'
> 
> "Hi!  I'm Chucky!  I'm your friend for life!"
> 
> Boats are like women.  Be careful what you sign up for.
> 
> Happy New Year,
> Wal
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 12:20:09 -0800
> From: Jim Lynch <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Stus-List scouting report on old C&C 38
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> 
> Thanks for all your input on the old 38 I'm buying.  As you know, it 
> gets hard to see straight when you fall in love with a boat.
> 
> So Dave , Rick, Rich and Hank, I appreciate your insights and 
> enthusiasm.  And Lee and Martin, thanks for for your Northwest sailing 
> camaraderie.
> I plan on looking you up and seeing you around in the months ahead.
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 16:23:46 -0400
> From: Rich Knowles <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List scouting report on old C&C 38
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Best of good fortune with her!  Lots of hard work ahead I'm sure, but the 
> results will be well worth the effort. 
> 
> Rich
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 16:20, Jim Lynch <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for all your input on the old 38 I'm buying.  As you know, it gets 
>> hard to see straight when you fall in love with a boat.
>> 
>> So Dave , Rick, Rich and Hank, I appreciate your insights and enthusiasm.  
>> And Lee and Martin, thanks for for your Northwest sailing camaraderie.
>> I plan on looking you up and seeing you around in the months ahead.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 16:37:56 -0500
> From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Stus-List APS Sale
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> Happy New Year all!
> 
> APS has 25% of all line and rigging in January.
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 22:44:43 +0000
> From: Wally Bryant <[email protected]>
> To: Steve Thomas <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List was (1990) gelcoat epoxy adhesion (now my
>    thoughts about V40s)
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> PPS
> 
> Every time I sail this boat I know it was all worth it.
> 
> 
> You wrote:
>>  Too true.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 21:08:00 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Richard N. Bush" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ; institutional memory request; 1985 C&C
>    Rendezvous at Block Island
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> 
> 
> Hi folks; I need the help of the Northeastern listers on this one; in 
> crawling around my new (to me) 1985 37, I found a small brass plaque on the 
> bulkhead which reads; "C&C Rendezvous; Block Island-1985;"Starfire";  Best in 
> Fleet";
> 
> I am assuming that means that the boat was originally named "Starfire" and 
> was at a C&C Rendezvous at Block Island in 1985; I am not sure what "Best in 
> Fleet" refers to; racing results? beauty contest?    I have attempted to look 
> for something on Block Island history but have been unsuccessful;
> 
> Does anyone recall being at the 1985 Rendezvous? Or even better, any 
> recollection of "Starfire"?  Who the owner may have been? Any info will be 
> appreciated! Many thanks;
> 
> 
> Richard
> 1985  37
> 1987 33-II (for sale) 
> 
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220 
> 502-584-7255
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:28:43 -0500
> From: Eric Frank <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Stus-List methods of self-rescue?
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> With the recent interest on this list-serve about inflatable vests and 
> tethers, and the comments that going overboard when single-handed is unlikely 
> to have a good outcome, I have been thinking about possible ways to improve 
> the chances of self-rescue.  My father always trailed a 100 foot 
> polypropylene line (so it would float) off the stern, with a knot at the end. 
>  He hoped to be able to grab that and then haul himself back to the stern 
> transom.  Of course a ladder off the stern would be crucial, which he did not 
> have.  But as this list-serve has noted, it is very unlikely that one would 
> be strong enough to pull along the line back to the boat unless the boat were 
> nearly stationary.
> 
> Would it be possible to rig a drogue (sea anchor?) in a bag on the stern so 
> that when you pull the line trailing off the stern, the drogue would deploy?  
> I have no experience using drogues or sea anchors, but are they capable of 
> slowing the boat, with sails full, to a knot or two?  That might be slow 
> enough to enable one to pull oneself back to the boat.  The stern ladder 
> would also need a cord to pull so that it would fold down, and be deep enough 
> so that 1 or 2 steps would be underwater.  The larger drogues are 6 ? 8 feet 
> in diameter, so that might be sufficient.  One could also rig a trip line to 
> the engine so if it were running, it would stop.
> 
> This idea must have occurred to many others, but I have never seen it 
> proposed.  Obviously one would rig the drogue bag and stern line only when 
> single handing ? not racing.  But the bags I have seen for full-sized sea 
> anchars are not huge, so it would not take up a lot of space behind the 
> helmsman.  Has this been tried?  Do any of you have experience with deploying 
> large drogues and seeing how slowly the boat moves?  If I had one, it would 
> be interesting to try it out on a warm day and with plenty of help around.
> 
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C&C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 21:35:44 -0500
> From: Curtis <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ; institutional memory request; 1985 C&C
>    Rendezvous at Block Island
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> Same boat??
> 
> We just bought a 1985 C&C 37 this summer.  It is truly a delight to sail.
> It handles a big blow and swells well, but it still can ghost along nicely
> in light air.  Very well balanced helm.
> 
> The location you describe is where our lpg tank goes.  Top flips open and
> tank, solenoid etc are in there.  What year is the boat?
> 
> Bill Hall
> 
> 1985 C&C 37 Starfire
> 
> Stamford, CT
> 
> 
> 
> http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2012-October/048957.html
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Richard N. Bush <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks; I need the help of the Northeastern listers on this one; in
>> crawling around my new (to me) 1985 37, I found a small brass plaque on the
>> bulkhead which reads; "C&C Rendezvous; Block Island-1985;"Starfire";  Best
>> in Fleet";
>> 
>> I am assuming that means that the boat was originally named "Starfire" and
>> was at a C&C Rendezvous at Block Island in 1985; I am not sure what "Best
>> in Fleet" refers to; racing results? beauty contest?    I have attempted to
>> look for something on Block Island history but have been unsuccessful;
>> 
>> Does anyone recall being at the 1985 Rendezvous? Or even better, any
>> recollection of "Starfire"?  Who the owner may have been? Any info will be
>> appreciated! Many thanks;
>> Richard
>> 1985  37
>> 1987 33-II (for sale)
>> 
>> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9
>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
>> 502-584-7255
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 21:37:19 -0500
> From: Curtis <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ; institutional memory request; 1985 C&C
>    Rendezvous at Block Island
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> http://phrf.yralis.org/phrf_cert_list?title=starfire&field_boat_sail_no_value=&field_cert_expires_value=2013
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Curtis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Same boat??
>> 
>> We just bought a 1985 C&C 37 this summer.  It is truly a delight to sail.
>> It handles a big blow and swells well, but it still can ghost along nicely
>> in light air.  Very well balanced helm.
>> 
>> The location you describe is where our lpg tank goes.  Top flips open and
>> tank, solenoid etc are in there.  What year is the boat?
>> 
>> Bill Hall
>> 
>> 1985 C&C 37 Starfire
>> 
>> Stamford, CT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2012-October/048957.html
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Richard N. Bush <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks; I need the help of the Northeastern listers on this one; in
>>> crawling around my new (to me) 1985 37, I found a small brass plaque on the
>>> bulkhead which reads; "C&C Rendezvous; Block Island-1985;"Starfire";  Best
>>> in Fleet";
>>> 
>>> I am assuming that means that the boat was originally named "Starfire"
>>> and was at a C&C Rendezvous at Block Island in 1985; I am not sure what
>>> "Best in Fleet" refers to; racing results? beauty contest?    I have
>>> attempted to look for something on Block Island history but have been
>>> unsuccessful;
>>> 
>>> Does anyone recall being at the 1985 Rendezvous? Or even better, any
>>> recollection of "Starfire"?  Who the owner may have been? Any info will be
>>> appreciated! Many thanks;
>>> Richard
>>> 1985  37
>>> 1987 33-II (for sale)
>>> 
>>> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9
>>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
>>> 502-584-7255
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com
>>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> ?Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline,
>> should really be running the world.? - Nicholas Monsarrat
> 
> 
> -- 
> ?Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline,
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 02:38:42 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Chuck S <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stus-List methods of self-rescue?
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> Stay aboard at all costs. KISS. Manage yourself as if no one is available to 
> help you, like you are driving an Open 60 in the Vendee Globe, thousands of 
> miles from any coast. Stay on board. 
> 
> 
> Chuck 
> Resolute 
> 1990 C&C 34R 
> Atlantic City, NJ 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Frank" <[email protected]> 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 9:28:43 PM 
> Subject: Stus-List methods of self-rescue? 
> 
> 
> 
> With the recent interest on this list-serve about inflatable vests and 
> tethers, and the comments that going overboard when single-handed is unlikely 
> to have a good outcome, I have been thinking about possible ways to improve 
> the chances of self-rescue. My father always trailed a 100 foot polypropylene 
> line (so it would float) off the stern, with a knot at the end. He hoped to 
> be able to grab that and then haul himself back to the stern transom. Of 
> course a ladder off the stern would be crucial, which he did not have. But as 
> this list-serve has noted, it is very unlikely that one would be strong 
> enough to pull along the line back to the boat unless the boat were nearly 
> stationary. 
> 
> Would it be possible to rig a drogue (sea anchor?) in a bag on the stern so 
> that when you pull the line trailing off the stern, the drogue would deploy? 
> I have no experience using drogues or sea anchors, but are they capable of 
> slowing the boat, with sails full, to a knot or two? That might be slow 
> enough to enable one to pull oneself back to the boat. The stern ladder would 
> also need a cord to pull so that it would fold down, and be deep enough so 
> that 1 or 2 steps would be underwater. The larger drogues are 6 ? 8 feet in 
> diameter, so that might be sufficient. One could also rig a trip line to the 
> engine so if it were running, it would stop. 
> 
> This idea must have occurred to many others, but I have never seen it 
> proposed. Obviously one would rig the drogue bag and stern line only when 
> single handing ? not racing. But the bags I have seen for full-sized sea 
> anchars are not huge, so it would not take up a lot of space behind the 
> helmsman. Has this been tried? Do any of you have experience with deploying 
> large drogues and seeing how slowly the boat moves? If I had one, it would be 
> interesting to try it out on a warm day and with plenty of help around. 
> Eric Frank 
> Cat's Paw 
> C&C 35 Mk II 
> Mattapoisett, MA 
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