Another tip, get the Speed Seal cover  (with thumb screws) and you don't need 
any tools!  Well, maybe some needle nose pliers to pull the impeller out.

Bill

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: JOHN D IRVIN 
<john.ir...@rogers.com> </div><div>Date:03/23/2014  7:02 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
</div><div>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com </div><div>Subject: Re: Stus-List 
Impeller/gear puller </div><div>
</div>Tip. Replace the impeller fasteners with screws which take a hex key. 
Much easier to work with.

From: dwight <dwight...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:21:29 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Impeller/gear puller

David
Hardest part is getting the cover off the pump; the nuts on those bolts are 
hard to get at and you may have to use a knife edge to pry the cover free.  I 
haven’t changed an impellor in 5 or maybe 6 years but I carry spares.  I 
winterize my raw water system with 50/50 ethylene glycol water mix after haul 
out in fall and so during storage my impellor is always surrounded by that mix. 
 When I winterize I disconnect the hose to the raw water thru hull at the pump 
end (not the thru hull end) and connect another length of similar sized hose to 
the pump which I use for winterizing and which after winterizing is complete 
gets suspended above the engine full to almost the top with the 50/50 mix.  
Come spring (soon I hope) I simply put that hose in a bucket of fresh water 
that is continuously supplied while I start up and run the engine on the hard 
and then before launch I remove that hose and reattach the hose to the raw 
water thru hull…easy and works great for me…I think it has been proven 
unnecessary to replace that impellor every year…consider how long they last in 
outboard motors…in my view a new one may be just as likely to fail because of 
faulty construction, I intend to go another year on the one I have installed 
now…carrying the riaght spares and tools is more important in my opinion 
because this job is not that hard to do at sea…that said I probably will change 
someday soon…hard to decide when to fix something that ain’t broke
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht
Sent: March 23, 2014 12:40 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Impeller/gear puller
 
Hi Chuck et al.- I have the M4-30.  This is the first time I have had the water 
pump apart so I have no idea when the impeller was last removed.  I will 
certainly keep it out for future winters, but I need to get it off to start the 
process.  I actually bought a new one that can run dry for some time, so that 
should take care of the periodic starts with the intake closed.  I will have a 
try at the wiggle/twist and pull with the pliers, but I suspect it is not going 
to come that way and I am worried about Dwight’s comment.  I will see if the 
yard will loan me a puller for this time.  I don’t want to spend $50-100 on a 
puller which should be needed only this time when I am not convinced any of 
them will grab my impeller.  Dave
 
On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:


David,
Forget if you have the Universal M4-30 like me and Dwight?  Many 34plusses were 
built w Yanmar.
 
Here's what I do after getting much advice from this list over the years:
I pull the raw water pump impeller of my Sherwood every Fall and stow it with 
the key in a sandwich bag to remind me to put it back in before starting the 
engine in Spring.  I remove the three screws w a box wrench and let the housing 
hang by the hoses.  I mark the housing w an arrow to show direction of 
rotation.  I usually can pull the impeller out with my fingers by turning it 
slightly in the normal direction of rotation.  You can wrap a rag around it to 
protect your hands.  If it is stuck, I take a pair of needle nosed pliers and 
gently grab one of the splines near the hub and gently rotate and pull. I close 
the housing for winter storage.
 
Come Spring, I usually install a new impellor or a spare and place last years 
in my spare parts tupperware container.  Before assembly, I open the pump 
housing and coat the rubber splines and wearing surfaces with a waterproof 
lube; lip baum sticks like Chap Stick work fine.  Vaseline is a little messier. 
 This protects the rubber from destruction if I forget to open the intake valve 
before starting the engine.
 
Chuck
 
From: "David Knecht" <davidakne...@gmail.com>
To: "CnC CnC discussion list" <CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 8:49:04 AM
Subject: Stus-List Impeller/gear puller
 
I need to change my impeller and after an earlier discussion and difficulty 
removing the present one, I purchased an inexpensive gear puller to remove it.  
I tried to use it yesterday and found that there was very little space between 
the back of the impeller and the housing of the water pump, so I could not get 
the arms of the puller to grab anything.  The arms on the one I bought are 
quite thick.  Do I need a different tool?  Thanks- Dave
 
 
David Knecht
Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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