I bumped a couple of times coming through Knapp's Narrows last week with my 
5'3" draft. 

Chris Price 
Pradel 35MK I 

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None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. 
They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in 
Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps 
Narrows, etc…. 

Joe Della Barba 

j...@dellabarba.com 




Coquina 

C&C 35 MK I 






From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM 
To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list 
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FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, 
while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can 
lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, 
when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if 
you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. 





A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run 
aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls 
drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at 
Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. 





Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 



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7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be 
marginal at best. 

I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel 
off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At 
least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased value 
of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you sent 
them the lead you removed. 



Joe Della Barba 

j...@dellabarba.com 

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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM 
To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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Steve, 





As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money! I would 
not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise the 
Bahamas. 





Joel 





On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 




There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and deep 
draft. It's gone. There are lots of these. 





Steve 


Suhana, C&C 32 


Toronto 








On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 
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I sometimes pick up donated boats for the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. 
Another volunteer and I just sailed an early '80's O'Day 30 across the Bay for 
the program. He was interested, because it has a centerboard and his mooring is 
in rather slim water. 





His thoughts were: Old gear, old upholstery, only two self tailing winches, not 
four.. old instruments, etc..... the boat was attractive and will go for low 
dollars. He was counting up the dollars to make it perfect and decided he 
wanted a boat with fewer issues to deal with. 





I think these boats sit around for a long time because there are few folks like 
many on this list who are knowledgeable enough to look through the small faults 
and make an offer. My friend is skilled, but still wanted the 'perfect' boat 
with few issues for low money. Maybe he didn't want to have another project? 





On the first one, the hailing port is interesting, as the boat is now in 
Maryland. The engine is small and has a lot of hours (almost 2000?), no self 
tailing winches, old (really) Moor instruments (if it breaks, buy new). 





The other one looks better, is a lot more money for an old boat - and seven 
feet is a non-starter around here. 





Gary 


still happy with the 30-1 

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http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/C%26C-MK-II-2367894/Cambridge/MD/United-States
 



This looks like a nice MK II and has been for sale for a long time. 
My guess is the sticking point is the engine. It has a Westebeke 4-60 engine, 
which is a 15 HP diesel derived from a 984 cc MG Midget engine. I had an MG 
Midget and all I have to say to that is Yikes! It may run fine, but AFAIK parts 
are nonexistent for it, so when it breaks it is dead forever. Also 15 HP is not 
exactly overpowered for a 35 foot boat. 



http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/C%26C-40-2647391/Branford/CT/United-States 



The boat sounds and looks decent in the ad. Only things I can see is apparently 
there is no canvas and the 7 foot draft. That boat would be trapped in my slip 
except at high tide. 







Joe Della Barba 

Coquina 

C&C 35 MK I 



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