Silk ties may be better? 


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From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "Frederick G Street" <f...@postaudio.net>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:25:54 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List bonding strap question 

Leather works well for bondage. 

Rich 

On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:34, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 




Actually, there’s a reason to NOT use braid; from the ABYC bonding standard: 


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The common bonding conductor shall be uninsulated copper or bronze strip, 
copper tubing, bare tinned-copper wire or insulated copper wire of the proper 
gauge. Copper braid shall not be used for this purpose. 

(a) Common Bonding conductors fabricated from copper or bronze strip shall have 
a minimum thickness of 1/32 inch and be no less than 1/2 inch in width. 

(b) Wire, where used as the common bonding conductor, shall be at least no. 8 
AWG. 

Note: These requirements are based on both physical strength and the ability to 
make alld maintain low-resistance connections, as well as current ratings. 




So 8AWG would be okay for bonding; UNLESS it’s part of a lightning protection 
system. Then 4AWG is recommended. 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 

On Jul 13, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 


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Skip — there’s no reason to use braid over the usual insulated large-gauge 
stranded cable. I’ve got all crimp terminals from 8AWG to 4/0, in terminal 
sizes from #10 to 3/8”, as well as the proper compound crimper needed to do 
those large lugs; if you’d like, I could do up a heavy grounding wire for you. 
4AWG green cable should be okay for the mast; I may actually have some of that 
around, depending on the length you need. And for the engine, if it’s just 
bonding (NOT the main DC system ground), 4AWG should be okay there, too. If you 
need a main DC ground, I’d probably go bigger than 4AWG; maybe 2/0 to account 
for engine cranking current. 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 

On Jul 13, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> wrote: 


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I am in need of a bonding conductor for both my engine block and mast. Engine 
block strap is corroded to the point of dust. Mast strap is missing. 
The boat contains braided tinned copper straps with nice big ring ends to fit 
over the keel bolts. I have been able to find braided flat straps but no 
termination hardware. Does anyone here have experience with that? I have lots 
of experience terminating standard stranded wire but never braided straps. Is 
there a source for purchasing pre-terminated straps of varying length? 
Skip 
1974 C&C 33 ¾ ton 
Portsmouth, RI 

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