Thanks for the offer, Joe. You never know with these old A4s.
I’m sure you are right about the estimate but I have some wiggle room before I get to the value of the boat. The PO was planning on salvaging the rig and crushing the hull so you can imagine what I might have paid. The boat looked tough but most of the issues (and there are a lot) are cosmetic. After three weeks we are ready to get her in the water and do some sailing before the season is over. I have spent so far just over $1500 and a LOT of elbow grease. My wife is a very good seamstress and she is willing to do the cushions including adding some back rests. We already have the materials in hand (Sunbrella). I am not using Awlgrip, just some decent deck and epoxy paint. The hull is in good shape and I will not be completely stripping the old paint. It is in good shape, just a little beat up and the wrong color. I am keeping in mind that this is not ever going to be a show boat. Just making it look good and feel good for two to spend a weekend on board. If sails come into the picture that number goes out the door. We will see where it all ends up but I am confident at this point that my efforts on this boat will (for the first time in my life) probably come back to me when I sell her for a bigger boat (the real upgrade). My guess is that I could have at least tripled my purchase price without doing anything but what fun is that? Best Skip From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 10:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C You must be *extraordinarily* good at doing work on the cheap. My boat could really use new sails, topside paint, and new cushions. The cost of that exceeds the market value of the boat. I did rewire my boat and that cost a good chunk of your proverbial $4K doing all the work myself. I have been quoted around $10K to paint the boat and over $5K to do interior cushions. I am not trying to be a Richard Cranium – I love the fact an old C&C has found a loving home – but I don’t see the finances working the way you think. I have seen again and again that once you start taking things apart you find more and more things to work on. Good luck – I am anxious to hear how you get topsides and interior done so far under the going rate because I need it too. I am pretty good at A4 scrounging if you need advice with that. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:32 AM To: 'Petar Horvatic'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat….. (I do the bulk of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning and using a boat. Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting.. Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a well-earned weekend on the hook. I’ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner. Ship C&C 33 3/4ton Portsmouth, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; 'Ebay' Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C You never get back the money you put upgrading a used sailboat. That will never sell at that price. It’s a balsa cored production sailboat. Not a Hinckley or Alden. On the other hand, note to myself don’t look for used sailboats in the Bay area. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 C&C 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM To: Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C Wow! A fully tweaked C&C 43. Beautiful lines. Sweet sheerline and love how the cabintop blends into the foredeck. Great upgrades. First class job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking. There are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _____ From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm afraid. John Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Discounted already…….. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html Nice Expensive Joe Della Barba Coquina _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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