We used to race against a ¾ ton special painted black called 007. Boat-for-boat we were as close to dead-even as could be but we owed them time. If memory serves we rated 126 and they were 130-140 something. I found out Rust-Oleum (yes those guys) make marine paint at something like ½-1/4 the price of the “marine” brands that apparently works well when brushed on. I am going to try it on a cockpit hatch and see how it goes. You did luck out with the A4 – there are always deals on parts for those for determined scroungers and many of the diesels of that era have NO parts at all available anymore.
Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I *if anyone wants to buy her for what I have in the boat I can run off and buy a 43 LOL From: Burt Stratton [mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:00 AM To: Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: RE: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C Thanks for the offer, Joe. You never know with these old A4s. I’m sure you are right about the estimate but I have some wiggle room before I get to the value of the boat. The PO was planning on salvaging the rig and crushing the hull so you can imagine what I might have paid. The boat looked tough but most of the issues (and there are a lot) are cosmetic. After three weeks we are ready to get her in the water and do some sailing before the season is over. I have spent so far just over $1500 and a LOT of elbow grease. My wife is a very good seamstress and she is willing to do the cushions including adding some back rests. We already have the materials in hand (Sunbrella). I am not using Awlgrip, just some decent deck and epoxy paint. The hull is in good shape and I will not be completely stripping the old paint. It is in good shape, just a little beat up and the wrong color. I am keeping in mind that this is not ever going to be a show boat. Just making it look good and feel good for two to spend a weekend on board. If sails come into the picture that number goes out the door. We will see where it all ends up but I am confident at this point that my efforts on this boat will (for the first time in my life) probably come back to me when I sell her for a bigger boat (the real upgrade). My guess is that I could have at least tripled my purchase price without doing anything but what fun is that? Best Skip From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 10:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C You must be *extraordinarily* good at doing work on the cheap. My boat could really use new sails, topside paint, and new cushions. The cost of that exceeds the market value of the boat. I did rewire my boat and that cost a good chunk of your proverbial $4K doing all the work myself. I have been quoted around $10K to paint the boat and over $5K to do interior cushions. I am not trying to be a Richard Cranium – I love the fact an old C&C has found a loving home – but I don’t see the finances working the way you think. I have seen again and again that once you start taking things apart you find more and more things to work on. Good luck – I am anxious to hear how you get topsides and interior done so far under the going rate because I need it too. I am pretty good at A4 scrounging if you need advice with that. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:32 AM To: 'Petar Horvatic'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat….. (I do the bulk of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning and using a boat. Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting.. Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a well-earned weekend on the hook. I’ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner. Ship C&C 33 3/4ton Portsmouth, RI
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