Hi,

I was a bit surprised to hear people discuss about a white rub rail on the 
Landfall 38.  I assumed they were all teak as I have on my LF38.  That is, I 
have an iconic LF teak toe rail which bolts through the deck along with a 
separate teak rub rail (~ 1-1/2" x 5/8" ) which is screwed onto the bottom 
outside of the toe rail. 

I have just looked online, and I now notice other LF38 with the white rub 
rails, but I don't see any with a teak rub rail.   Does anyone know if the teak 
rub rail was a factory option or was it likely a previous owner upgrade?   

-
Paul Eugenio
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL




Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:07:50 -0400
From: Robert Boyer <dainyr...@icloud.com>
To: "CnC-List@cnc-list.com" <CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35
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I have a Landfall 38 and I replaced a short section of my rub rail a long time 
ago--it rubbed up against a piling real seriously.  It wasn't that big a 
problem but it was just a short length (maybe 3 feet long) and it was near the 
anchor well where I had good access to bolts.  If you look closely at the 
underside of the hull-to-deck joint there are both thru bolts (the permanent 
fastening) and screws (probably temporary fastening during construction).  This 
means you will have to completely remove the teak toe rail to get at the heads 
of the screws for their removal.  (You would have to remove and reinstall the 
toe rail anyway.)

Even though the part of the rub rail that sticks out beyond the hull is not 
structural or will not affect leak tight integrity, I think if you cut it off 
and put something else over it, it will look cheap.  Also, I wouldn't want to 
add a bunch of screw holes into my hull (to mount a new rub rail over the old) 
just at the structural joint between the deck and the hull.

I can tell you that the rub rail is made from white EPDM and paint does not 
stick well to EPDM.  I'd bet you can scrape it off rather easily--you could 
also use a varnish remover to make it come off easier but be careful about this 
touching the hull.

I think that before you try some Rube Goldberg fix like putting another rub 
rail over the outside, I would try very hard to clean the paint off.  If the 
paint doesn't come off, I think I would try replacing the rub rail by removing 
the entire toe rail and all the screws.  Then, try replace just a few feet at a 
time until you are all around the perimeter of the boat.  There is probably 
enough flex in the outer part of the deck to do this.  It would be a big job 
and it would be best done out of the water.

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com




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