I bought a Baltic 39, Finnish built, 3 years ago having spent 5 years shopping 
for a swan as an upgrade from my 35-1.

It is a great sailing boat and immensely strong. I cut and machined the teak 
during a deck replacement last winter so I have been through every inch of the 
boat and have an intimate knowledge of its construction and noted lack of any 
deterioration. 

Rob ball designed a very sweet sailing vessel. My wife and I sail her without 
auto pilot and find she is easier to work and tracks better than the 35-1. 

It is a pain to go below, 6 steps, but when you take a wave that washes over 
the deck and partially fills the cockpit the wisdom of the bridge deck is self 
evident. 

We are doing a full refit for a North Atlantic crossing when I retire in 3-4 
years. I have no doubt about the boat, just me. 

She looks and sails like the best of the C&C line, just stronger for offshore 
work.  We love having the C&C star molded into her, she is a great extension of 
that stellar mark. Thank you Rob Ball. 

John Maturo
203-494-6782

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>   4. Re:  Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30 (Tim Goodyear)
>   5. Re:  Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30 (Chuck S)
>   6. Re:  Winter worries (randy)
>   7. Re:  Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30 (Russ & Melody)
>   8. Re:  Looks like a C&C design... (Steve Thomas)
>   9. Re:  Winter worries (Jake Brodersen)
>  10. Re:  mixed thread fittings (Chuck S)
>  11. Re:  Looks like a C&C design... (Chuck S)
>  12. Re:  Winter worries (Kevin Driscoll)
>  13. Re:  Draft (Alan Bergen)
>  14. Re:  Winter worries (Joe Della Barba)
>  15. Re:  Draft (Burt Stratton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:22:05 +0000
> From: Wally Bryant <w...@wbryant.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...
> Message-ID: <546e779d.1040...@wbryant.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Twice I have seen recently repainted boats (one a Catalina, one a 
> Hunter) who put C&C stars under the toe rail. Then there was a Taiwan 
> knock-off (I think they bought a boat and made a mold from the hull) and 
> I was pretty sure it was a C&C 40 knock-off but the owner assured me it 
> was 'just like a Swan only cheaper' and so I left him to his beer.
> 
> It's good to see the original stars shine.
> 
> Wal
> 
> 
> Fred wrote:
>> http://vineyardgazette.com/news/2014/11/12/duluth-vineyard-haven-island-family-sees-america-sail?k=vg546e3c74c6c47
>> 
>> It?s actually a Cassian/Cuthbertson design built by Whitby Boatworks in 
>> Ontario (1969 Whitby 45).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:05:16 -0500
> From: Bill Bina <billbinal...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...
> Message-ID: <546e81bc.7080...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> "Like a Swan only cheaper" may have been a Baltic 39. The hull was 
> designed by C&C and has the C&C cove stripe with the familiar 
> diamond/star. They were built to a pretty high standard, complete with 
> teak decks.
> 
> <http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/Baltic-39-2442737/Italy#.VG6BXsm9a0o>
> 
> Bill Bina
> 
>> On 11/20/2014 6:22 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote:
>> Twice I have seen recently repainted boats (one a Catalina, one a 
>> Hunter) who put C&C stars under the toe rail. Then there was a Taiwan 
>> knock-off (I think they bought a boat and made a mold from the hull) 
>> and I was pretty sure it was a C&C 40 knock-off but the owner assured 
>> me it was 'just like a Swan only cheaper' and so I left him to his beer.
>> 
>> It's good to see the original stars shine.
>> 
>> Wal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:32:31 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> To: Burt Stratton <bstrat...@falconnect.com>,    "CNC boat owners,
>    cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft
> Message-ID:
>    <678122509.10118176.1416529951897.javamail.zim...@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> The picture shows your boat has the deeper keel. That's better for 
> performance. Deeper, stiffer, lighter. 
> Glad to hear the yard helped with the stands. They sound like good people. 
> 
> Chuck 
> Resolute 
> 1990 C&C 34R 
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:24:59 PM 
> Subject: Stus-List Draft 
> 
> 
> 
> I just got schooled by my boat (again). The specifications for my boat show 
> it having a draft of 5?6?. (This is a 1974 C&C 33 ? tonner). I bought (used) 
> jack stands for her winter stay in my back yard based on that. I just had her 
> delivered and found out my stands are too short. I was able to recover 
> gracefully from that little faux pas with the help of my yard who were 
> willing to trade for the correct size. After the dust settled I did some 
> measuring to find out where I went wrong. Having just been hauled she has a 
> well-defined water line. I measured the actual draft and found it to be 
> closer to 6? 6?. Is it possible that the keel was either extended or replaced 
> by a PO? Do owners do such things? It is still a fin keel but I noticed it 
> has a different shape than the shape shown on the C&C specifications document 
> for the boat. The specifications are for a custom ? ton but could there have 
> been optional keels available? I will attempt to attach a pic. There is real 
> experience!
>  on this list and your thoughts are valuable. 
> 
> 
> 
> Here is a comparison of the silhouette from the specification drawing a 
> sailboatdata and a pic of the actual boat. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jlbdmQzvxLanZwZUsxeE1PaE0/view?usp=sharing 
> 
> 
> 
> Burt 
> 
> On the hard in Walpole, MA 
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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:42:05 -0500
> From: Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com>
> To: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>,    "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
> Message-ID:
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> 
> I sailed on one in New York a couple of weeks ago (it was cold then, but
> I'm glad it wasn't this week).  In ~5-7 knots we were going upwind at 6 at
> a very tight angle.  The wind got up to 12, occasionally gusting 15 and we
> went back downwind hitting 12.5 knots (trying to heat it up, not soak).
> All very nice and calm, including a couple of broaches which were pretty
> slow and non-dramatic, and involved easing the spin / main and then
> trimming by hand.  It's a great boat to sail, but the admiral might
> complain about creature comforts...
> 
> Tim
> 
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> Its good to see the boat is being well received.  They are taking orders
>> for #19. It is slightly less expensive than a Farr 28? and is designed for
>> more than around the buoy racing.
>> 
>> It is supposed to be a one design in the Annapolis NOOD in the spring.
>> Maybe I can catch a ride?
>> 
>> I have nothing against J Boats, but its nice to see a little competition
>> out there!
>> 
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
>>> 
>>> "We don?t often have ties in our Best Boats competition, but with two
>>> very different and equally exciting boats in the 30ft-and-under performance
>>> category, we just couldn?t go with a single winner.
>>> 
>>> The first of the two is the C&C 30. If you?ve been racing sailboats for a
>>> while, you?re undoubtedly familiar with C&C Yachts, a racer-cruiser
>>> manufacturer that produced plenty of winning boats in the 1970s and 1980s.
>>> Now the company is back at the forefront of racing design with this Mark
>>> Mills-conceived 30-footer, which C&C hopes to develop into a
>>> high-performance, offshore-capable one-design class that?s both easy to
>>> sail and affordable compared to other grand prix boats."
>>> 
>>> Read More: http://www.sailmagazine.com/best-boats/best-boats-2015-cc-30
>>> 
>>> Ken H.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Joel
>> 301 541 8551
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:46:08 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> To: "Aronson, Joel" <joel.aron...@gmail.com>,    "CNC boat owners,
>    cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
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> 
> Wow, 19 boats? That's amazing. What was the boat that tied with the C&C 30 
> for Best Boat? 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> To: "Heaton, Ken" <kenhea...@gmail.com>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:43:10 PM 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30 
> 
> Its good to see the boat is being well received. They are taking orders for 
> #19. It is slightly less expensive than a Farr 28? and is designed for more 
> than around the buoy racing. 
> 
> It is supposed to be a one design in the Annapolis NOOD in the spring. Maybe 
> I can catch a ride? 
> 
> I have nothing against J Boats, but its nice to see a little competition out 
> there! 
> 
> Joel 
> 35/3 
> Annapolis 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30 
> 
> 
> <blockquote>
> 
> " We don?t often have ties in our Best Boats competition, but with two very 
> different and equally exciting boats in the 30ft-and-under performance 
> category, we just couldn?t go with a single winner. 
> 
> 
> The first of the two is the C&C 30. If you?ve been racing sailboats for a 
> while, you?re undoubtedly familiar with C&C Yachts, a racer-cruiser 
> manufacturer that produced plenty of winning boats in the 1970s and 1980s. 
> Now the company is back at the forefront of racing design with this Mark 
> Mills-conceived 30-footer, which C&C hopes to develop into a 
> high-performance, offshore-capable one-design class that?s both easy to sail 
> and affordable compared to other grand prix boats." 
> 
> 
> 
> Read More: http://www.sailmagazine.com/best-boats/best-boats-2015-cc-30 
> 
> 
> Ken H. 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> </blockquote>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 301 541 8551 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:08:39 -0800
> From: "randy" <spins...@embarqmail.com>
> To: "'Kevin Driscoll'" <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>,
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter worries
> Message-ID: <00a001d00527$b00ba140$1022e3c0$@embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Kevin, let me know the dates, we can probably arrange to share a libation 
> with ya!  We do a Christmas lights cruise, quite low key, but usually makes 
> the local paper, and I can let you know dates when I hear them.  
> 
> 
> 
> Feel free to contact me if ya need more info about anything,
> 
> randy
> 
> 29-II
> 
> Tamanawas
> 
> HRYC
> 
> Hood River, OR
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Driscoll via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:49 AM
> To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter worries
> 
> 
> 
> Per this thread I just bought one of these oil pan heaters for our 2gm20F on 
> our C&C 1989 30-2. 
> http://www.amazon.com/Kats-24050-Watt-Universal-Heater/dp/B000I8YPQ4 
> 
> 
> 
> We use the boat all winter and occasionally race her Sundays through the 
> winter, so winterizing doesn't work for us. We are planning on taking her up 
> to Hood River for Christmas this year (from Portland). Our last hoorah before 
> baby arrives in the spring....
> 
> 
> 
> It saddens me to hear all the late season starts and early autumn hauls on 
> this list. 
> 
> 
> 
> With Sympathy,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> Portland, Or
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu Nov 20 2014 at 9:35:51 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:
> 
> Fear of fires has been the reason I don't leave ANY electric space heaters on 
> while not on the boat.  I use a ceramic heater while working on it through 
> the winter but only under supervision.
> 
> Josh
> 
> On Nov 20, 2014 12:08 PM, "Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:
> 
> Speaking of heaters, what types do you use?  We have been using an oil 
> radiator for years because I thought they would be safer.  But I heard on 
> caught fire on a boat last year and am a little less confident about that now.
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200 <tel:206.463.9200> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:47:29 -0800
> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
> To: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
> Message-ID:
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> 
> 
> Probably the 35! :)
> 
>         Cheers, Russ
>         Sweet 35 mk-1
> 
> At 04:46 PM 20/11/2014, you wrote:
>> Wow, 19 boats?  That's amazing.  What was the 
>> boat that tied with the C&C 30 for Best Boat?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----------
>> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: "Heaton, Ken" <kenhea...@gmail.com>, "CNC 
>> boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:43:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
>> 
>> Its good to see the boat is being well 
>> received.  They are taking orders for #19. It is 
>> slightly less expensive than a Farr 28??? and is 
>> designed for more than around the buoy racing.
>> 
>> It is supposed to be a one design in the 
>> Annapolis NOOD in the spring.  Maybe I can catch a ride?
>> 
>> I have nothing against J Boats, but its nice to 
>> see a little competition out there!
>> 
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Ken Heaton via 
>> CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
>> 
>> "We don???t often have ties in our Best Boats 
>> competition, but with two very different and 
>> equally exciting boats in the 30ft-and-under 
>> performance category, we just couldn???t go with a single winner.
>> 
>> The first of the two is the C&C 30. If you???ve 
>> been racing sailboats for a while, you???re 
>> undoubtedly familiar with C&C Yachts, a 
>> racer-cruiser manufacturer that produced plenty 
>> of winning boats in the 1970s and 1980s. Now the 
>> company is back at the forefront of racing 
>> design with this Mark Mills-conceived 30-footer, 
>> which C&C hopes to develop into a 
>> high-performance, offshore-capable one-design 
>> class that???s both easy to sail and affordable 
>> compared to other grand prix boats."
>> 
>> Read More: 
>> <http://www.sailmagazine.com/best-boats/best-boats-2015-cc-30>http://www.sailmagazine.com/best-boats/best-boats-2015-cc-30
>> 
>> Ken H.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Joel
>> 301 541 8551
>> 
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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:01:47 -0500
> From: Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca>
> To: "Bill Bina" <billbinal...@gmail.com>,    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...
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> 
> 
> I spent a couple of weeks on one of those Baltic 39s, sailing from St. 
> Martin to Newport, via Bermuda.
> Definitely not cheaper than a C&C 39.
> 
> There was a really deep drop down from the cockpit into the main part of the 
> boat because of a "hallway" linking the 2 sides of the rear cabin.
> Other than that, no issues different from a C&C, unless you don't care for 
> the upkeep of teak decks.
> 
> Very desirable boats in my opinion.
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C&C27 MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Bina via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...
> 
> 
>> "Like a Swan only cheaper" may have been a Baltic 39. The hull was 
>> designed by C&C and has the C&C cove stripe with the familiar 
>> diamond/star. They were built to a pretty high standard, complete with 
>> teak decks.
>> 
>> <http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/Baltic-39-2442737/Italy#.VG6BXsm9a0o>
>> 
>> Bill Bina
>> 
>>> On 11/20/2014 6:22 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote:
>>> Twice I have seen recently repainted boats (one a Catalina, one a Hunter) 
>>> who put C&C stars under the toe rail. Then there was a Taiwan knock-off 
>>> (I think they bought a boat and made a mold from the hull) and I was 
>>> pretty sure it was a C&C 40 knock-off but the owner assured me it was 
>>> 'just like a Swan only cheaper' and so I left him to his beer.
>>> 
>>> It's good to see the original stars shine.
>>> 
>>> Wal
>> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:09:00 -0500
> From: "Jake Brodersen" <captain_j...@cox.net>
> To: "'Tom Buscaglia'" <t...@sv-alera.com>,    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter worries
> Message-ID: <00e601d00530$1de01c20$59a05460$@cox.net>
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> Tom,
> 
> I use the oil filled heater too, because I think they are safer.  I used to
> use a ceramic heater all the time, but now I'm being more cautious.  I still
> use the ceramic heater, but only when I'm onboard.  The heat is almost
> instant and makes the cabin feel much better.
> 
> Jake
> 
> Jake Brodersen
> "Midnight Mistress"
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Hampton VA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> Buscaglia via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:08 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Winter worries
> 
> Speaking of heaters, what types do you use?  We have been using an oil
> radiator for years because I thought they would be safer.  But I heard on
> caught fire on a boat last year and am a little less confident about that
> now.
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera 
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 02:16:42 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> To: "Aronson, Joel" <joel.aron...@gmail.com>,    "CNC boat owners,
>    cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List mixed thread fittings
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Joel, 
> I mention the mixed threads as a warning. Don't see any way around it. My 
> fittings are tight. 
> 
> FYI, I helped my brother replace a seacock on his Boston Whaler 23. Hi 
> quality boat. The bronze thru-hull had a 6" long nipple with non-tapered 
> threads. A mushroom shaped nut secured the thruhull to the inner hull, then a 
> bronze valve w tapered threads screwed down onto the end. 
> 
> Maybe I could rethread the marelon fittings w a pipe threader? I'll have to 
> try that. 
> 
> Chuck 
> Resolute 
> 1990 C&C 34R 
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> To: "Joe Della Barba" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:32:10 AM 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter worries 
> 
> Chuck, 
> 
> I would not mix thread types. Your seal is only as good as the glue because 
> you don't have enough surface contact between the threads.I like the idea of 
> a tee, but I have not gotten around to installing one. 
> 
> Joe, I only winterized the fresh water and waste. I figure the Bay water is 
> still in the mid-40s and I'm in salt water, so I should be OK with the 
> engine. Am I delusional? 
> 
> Joel 
> 35/3 
> Annapolis 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 02:24:38 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> To: Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca>,    "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...
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> I like my C&C 34R for the 4 step companionway. The Swan and Baltics have 6 to 
> 8 steps down into cabin. 
> 
> Spent some time sailing a Benneteau Sense 55 that had only 3 steps, but it 
> lacked a bridgedeck. 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> To: "Bill Bina" <billbinal...@gmail.com>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:01:47 PM 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design... 
> 
> 
> I spent a couple of weeks on one of those Baltic 39s, sailing from St. 
> Martin to Newport, via Bermuda. 
> Definitely not cheaper than a C&C 39. 
> 
> There was a really deep drop down from the cockpit into the main part of the 
> boat because of a "hallway" linking the 2 sides of the rear cabin. 
> Other than that, no issues different from a C&C, unless you don't care for 
> the upkeep of teak decks. 
> 
> Very desirable boats in my opinion. 
> 
> Steve Thomas 
> C&C27 MKIII 
> Port Stanley, ON 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Bina via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:05 PM 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design... 
> 
> 
>> "Like a Swan only cheaper" may have been a Baltic 39. The hull was 
>> designed by C&C and has the C&C cove stripe with the familiar 
>> diamond/star. They were built to a pretty high standard, complete with 
>> teak decks. 
>> 
>> <http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/Baltic-39-2442737/Italy#.VG6BXsm9a0o> 
>> 
>> Bill Bina 
>> 
>>> On 11/20/2014 6:22 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote: 
>>> Twice I have seen recently repainted boats (one a Catalina, one a Hunter) 
>>> who put C&C stars under the toe rail. Then there was a Taiwan knock-off 
>>> (I think they bought a boat and made a mold from the hull) and I was 
>>> pretty sure it was a C&C 40 knock-off but the owner assured me it was 
>>> 'just like a Swan only cheaper' and so I left him to his beer. 
>>> 
>>> It's good to see the original stars shine. 
>>> 
>>> Wal
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 02:35:05 +0000
> From: Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>
> To: Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com,    Tom
>    Buscaglia <t...@sv-alera.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter worries
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> Thanks Randy. We do some Christmas shipping in Portland so will have lights
> on the boat already. Maybe we can slot in. Will be on touch
> 
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 6:09 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> I use the oil filled heater too, because I think they are safer.  I used to
>> use a ceramic heater all the time, but now I'm being more cautious.  I
>> still
>> use the ceramic heater, but only when I'm onboard.  The heat is almost
>> instant and makes the cabin feel much better.
>> 
>> Jake
>> 
>> Jake Brodersen
>> "Midnight Mistress"
>> C&C 35 Mk-III
>> Hampton VA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Buscaglia via CnC-List
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:08 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Winter worries
>> 
>> Speaking of heaters, what types do you use?  We have been using an oil
>> radiator for years because I thought they would be safer.  But I heard on
>> caught fire on a boat last year and am a little less confident about that
>> now.
>> 
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> S/V Alera
>> 1990 C&C 37+/40
>> Vashon WA
>> P 206.463.9200
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 03:01:33 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Alan Bergen <alan-at-h...@comcast.net>
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft
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> 
> I couldn't tell from your picture, Burt, but if your jack stands are sitting 
> on the bare ground (dirt or gravel) I hope you remembered to place plywood 
> under the stands. Otherwise, be prepared to see the stands sink when the 
> weather becomes wet. 
> 
> Alan Bergen 
> 35 Mk III Thirsty 
> Rose City YC 
> Portland, OR 
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:06:52 -0500
> From: "Joe Della Barba" <j...@dellabarba.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter worries
> Message-ID: <012401d00538$3373d100$9a5b7300$@dellabarba.com>
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> 
> The heater itself is rarely what catches on fire, it is the cord. The safest
> thing is a hard-wired marine rated engine compartment heater. That said, the
> oil heaters don't get hot enough to ignite anything unless they short
> circuit or something. Be sure to check THE PLUG. THAT is what burns up.
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> j...@dellabarba.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake
> Brodersen via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:09 PM
> To: 'Tom Buscaglia'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter worries
> 
> Tom,
> 
> I use the oil filled heater too, because I think they are safer.  I used to
> use a ceramic heater all the time, but now I'm being more cautious.  I still
> use the ceramic heater, but only when I'm onboard.  The heat is almost
> instant and makes the cabin feel much better.
> 
> Jake
> 
> Jake Brodersen
> "Midnight Mistress"
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Hampton VA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> Buscaglia via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:08 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Winter worries
> 
> Speaking of heaters, what types do you use?  We have been using an oil
> radiator for years because I thought they would be safer.  But I heard on
> caught fire on a boat last year and am a little less confident about that
> now.
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:10:56 -0500
> From: "Burt Stratton" <bstrat...@falconnect.com>
> To: "'Alan Bergen'" <alan-at-h...@comcast.net>,
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft
> Message-ID: <016b01d00538$c4ffa4a0$4efeede0$@falconnect.com>
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> 
> Yes I do have PT 2x6 under each foot of each stand. The ground under the boat 
> is crushed stone bank.  
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan 
> Bergen via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:02 PM
> To: C&C Photoalbum email list
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I couldn't tell from your picture, Burt, but if your jack stands are sitting 
> on the bare ground (dirt or gravel) I hope you remembered to place plywood 
> under the stands.  Otherwise, be prepared to see the stands sink when the 
> weather becomes wet.
> 
> 
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> 
> Rose City YC
> 
> Portland, OR
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