Patrick,

The Captains Tolley's will definitely work in the horizontal joint between
toe rail and deck.  That's exactly where I apply it on Touche'.  Because it
is a thin, low viscosity liquid, it will penetrate through capillary action
into that joint.  The liquid carrier will then evaporate leaving the rubber
like sealant.  Coats can be applied every half hour to hour depending on
temperature.

You made need to apply it over a couple days then give it a maintenance
application each spring but it will reduce or eliminate leakage at the toe
rail.

You said you tightened the toe rail fasteners with a screwdriver.  A better
practice is to hold the fasteners immobile with a screwdriver or square
drive from the top and tighten the nuts from beneath.  Rotating the
fasteners increases the potential of breaking the seal.  If I want to
tighten the nuts from beneath, I use a 1/4 inch drive handle with a
flexible drive extension and the appropriate size socket.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Patrick Wesley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Several people have given me useful feed-back in dealing with my leaks,
> this is a bit of an up-date that might be helpful to someone else, and a
> question or two.
>
>
>
> I used a hand-screwdriver and tightened all the toe-rail bolts,
> hand-tight. At a guess something like 80% tightened up in a quarter turn,
> the rest did not. Since most of the nuts on the bolts are inaccessible,
> except in the vee berth, I think there isn't much I can do about that.
> And since some grey play-dough type material has been coming out in the vee
> berth area for several years, I'm assuming that that is the butyl
> compound that has been mentioned and I don’t want to squeeze out any more.
>
>
>
> I want to try the Captain Tolley Creeping Crack liquid but since the toe
> rail seems to be an inverted “T” i.e. vertical piece containing the slots
> teeing into a horizontal piece that meets the deck, the only gap is
> horizontal on the in-board and out-board parts of the toe-rail. I wonder if
> the Tolley stuff will work its way into a horizontal crack? Secondly I
> assume that everything should be dry for it to work. I don’t think applying
> heat from e.g. a hair-dryer will dry it out properly in rainy weather?
>
>
>
> If this were an expensive boat, and made later than 1983, and if I were
> younger than 75, and could afford it, I suppose that a yard might take off
> the toe-rail and re-bed it, but since none of those conditions apply, this
> won’t be happening!
>
>
>
> Interestingly the water in the bilge has always been fresh until I took
> her out recently in 20 knots gusting 25 and maybe 30, so we were heeling a
> lot, and when we came back in there was new water in the bilge and it
> tasted slightly salty. This suggests that a primary source of the leaks is
> the toe-rail.
>
>
>
> *Patrick Wesley*
>
> *S/V The Boat C& C 24 MK II*
>
> *Sidney BC Canada*
>
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