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That is total BS. Not The intent of the ruling at all.
http://www.phrfne.org/page/handicapping/handicap_adjustments No sprit on the C&C, it's to heavy in my opinion to benefit from a sprint. The faster the boat the better the AW angel so the A-kite can get out in clear air from the main. That's a big source of controversy though I could be wrong. The 34r serve me well down wind. Up wind tougher game. The IMX has a 20% sprit and a 3sec Credit, d/l is around 165. I'm probably going to lose that 3sec credit with the new rules proposed for next year. It was 1st at the ONE against all A-boat last year in D2. Ryan Raber 207.841.7881 > On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Ryan, > Locally they gave an adjustment to furlers, and gave the same credit to > anyone w a furler, above deck, under deck, Melges, J-105, etc. And many > people kept the credit even when they used a sail that didn't furl. > > Does Scapa have a sprit? How much did they adjust your handicap? > > Chuck > > > > > From: "Ryan Raber via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:45:45 AM > Subject: Stus-List handicap for after market sprits > > Peat, This Email below is from my FH in NE but the implementation of the > rule was delayed for public comment from our members. Essentially the new > matrix adds three seconds to my old rating (IMX40) with the same > configuration. There was an extensive study done that revealed asymmetrical > spinnakers have been able to rotate further to Windward to allow deeper > downwind angles then the initial rating system accounted for this?? Other > members don't understand why boats that were built with Sprint are not > penalized or adjusted the same as the boats with sprint added to them > after-the-fact? Our PHRF region has two main groups one more competitive > group in the Marblehead area and one less competitive group comprised of > older vessels in Maine. The boats in MH are 70-80% AS in the race fleet. > There are a group of older WELL maintained (Nelson Mrek,Frers, Taylor, and a > newer 36.7 beny) that go SM and class 5/6 are SM. but all the big boats that > are racing have purchase or converted their boat to AS. And of course all > the new one design fleets are asymmetrical j70…. In Maine its SM except for > the j/105’s and we have limited participation from a few AS Race boats > Farr395, 1D35, Swan club 42… There are 2 conversion sprit boats > participating in Maine next year IMX40 and a Farr43. I feel that > asymmetrical is the way of the future easier to sail and more fun. go at > least 20% or their pain to jibe. > > The new matrix proposed is provided in the table below: > > D/L=(dis (lbs.)/2240)/((0.01*WLL(ft))3) > %=J*X for sprint length > # are adjustment to your rating > > D/L bow 10% 20% 30% > >220 9 6 3 0 > 150-220 6 3 0 -3 > 100-150 3 0 -3 -6 > >100 0 -3 -6 -9 > > > Good morning Ryan > > Yes, I was there and a new rule has been passed for 2015. The heart of the > issue, as you probably already know, is that for a number of years boats > which changed from a symmetrical spin to an asym were given a credit of up > to 9 sec/mile. PHRFNE is finally recognizing that the credit was a mistake > in some cases. > > I don't know how it will impact your handicap because I don't have access to > the 2014 cert for your boat (I can access only those boats that were in the > GMORA fleet in 2014). But the rule is essentially based on the ratio of > your displacement to LWL. Then depending on that ratio and the length of > your sprit relative to the J measurement, you may see a reduced spinnaker > credit of 3, 6 or 9 sec/mile. By the way, the displacement used will be > based on an empty boat and that number may not be what is on the boat's 2014 > certificate. > > PHRFNE will be publishing, shortly, an explanation of the new rule in > layman's terms so that you can understand what has transpired. > > I recognize that the above has probably created more questions than answers > but more will follow soon. > > > Ryan Raber > 207.841.7881 > r...@fvprovidian.net > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album. > > Please donate to the C&C Photo Album to keep this list free for all > subscribers. > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > >
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